Open The Sky Project(Images!)

[Redsky]

Open The Sky Project
flying alien project

This is a thing that made me sleepless for many nights since first time I imagined this alien. An alien who would have ability of active flight as well as ability of gliding silently through the air. Something like vampire-bat.

I. Controls
it has two modes: walking mode (allows jump normaly, as other aliens do) and flight mode(that will makes jumps longer but immobilizeon thr ground, makes possible to change path during the jump also enables waving with wings) toggle with 'c' kay.( u can see both of this modes on the image-biger one is in f. mode)
Whan u are in flight mode while in mid air u control flight with mouse(head camera direction), and add speed by RightClick (wave wings)

II. Flight model
i would like it as easy as can be, but also natural:

horizontal speed will efect vertical force(taking into consideration changes in gravitation)
horizontal rotation would effect the lifting force angle and would also rotate camera and model.

III. Attack
As vampire it could suck away hp while touching a human, and click to bite (give alien part of hp this attack took from oponent)  


VI. Model
I had allready made a model,  it has 568 vert. and 802 faces (mara has 947 vert. and 978 faces)

I hope u like it  

V. Animation, UV maping
well its not that easy as i had started working with exporting models into md3 and i need help(if you can and want to give me some advice just click here (topic:  Help with Blender needed)

VI. Programing
Uhh, to be true im not good at this and my knowledge of C language is very poor. A friend of mine told me that he will take care of this part but it looks like he wont keep his ward(his PC is broken(?))
I would be really greatful if someone could udertake this task and make this project come true.

VII. Put it in game
I think it wont be a problem but it has to be finished first  :wink:

VIII. Use it
Well thats the best part

Anyway i hope u will join me in realizing this project. This alien yet dont have name, so if u have some good ideas names for it just PM me
I will update this post if any changes will appear and will mark it with version number. I hope to see your comments, thank you

(forgive me my language)



Thank You for Reading

[tehOen]

it has 8 legs >_>

[AKAnotu]

it's pretty sweet
teh oen, the aliens are the last place you look for consistency (besides maby politics)
stfu
and redsky, your language is fine
if we can understand you, we don't mind
plus if you made that sketch, your a great artist
(well, compared to me. i suck)
@Risujin
this would pwn in the arcade/balance mod

[Exterminans]

Nice try, but tehoen said, this alien has 8 legs instead of 6, and there are some things that disturb me:
1. In walking mode this alien is the perfekt target
2. Without the ability to climb this creature is useless, it has to start from higher places
3. A flying creature without ranged attacks is very hard to control, and if you try to attack you will crash into the target.

Enough criticizes, the model is very nice

[fleash eater]

make it wall walk and let it snipe like adv. goons then well be tallking

[AKAnotu]

make it wall walk and let it snipe like adv. goons then well be tallking

and don't listen to flesh eater while he's on sugar and lsd

[Lancerance]

make it wall walk and let it snipe like adv. goons then well be tallking

LMAO that would be awesome lolol

[n00b pl0x]

YA LOLAOL WOULDNT THAT BE AWSOM? LOALWOL

[ShadowNinjaDudeMan]

it has 8 legs >_>

I love this guy, he has suggested an idea, but has got all the things to bring it to life, minus K0dez and stuff, very unusual, but highly welcomed.

But it is a point, the thing shiould have 6 legs to go along with the other aliens. But this is excellent, so, youive made that model then, cool.
Just get someone to breathe life into it I spose.

[E-Mxp]

make it walk slow but give him the ability to flap upwards after he jumped

model looks nice Looking forward to this!!

[n00b pl0x]

make 6 legs then people wil wunt

[ShadowNinjaDudeMan]

make 6 legs then people wil wunt

I wunt anyway!
Ill just ignore two of the legs.



EDIT:

NEWFLASH!

While out today, I saw some of these in the real world!
They were pawning! It was a massacre.
They come in all shapes, colours and variations.
They swooped down on everyone, and closed over them, it was 1337.
Ive even added captions for you on some.



Dear old lady, never seen again as it closed around her.



This one jumped him from the front, and took him out.



She never saw it coming...



This guy has to win the 1337 award for 1337ness, he killed dozens of them, here he is seen plunging his sword into its gizzard.



Er......


As you can see, they are all around us, all the time.
Be careful. Constant Vigilance is neccessary, be like the 1337man

[Vector_Matt]

It can walk, and wallwalk

I. Controls
it has two modes: walking mode (allows jump normaly, as other aliens do) and flight mode(that will makes jumps longer but immobilizeon thr ground,

Wallwalk mode, normal dretch style movement. Flight mode, what he ^ said.


That concept art is good. The model is also really good. May I ask what program you used to model it?

[Redsky]

it has 8 legs >_>

what 8 legs?!?  :eek:  let me see... 1.. 2.. 3..
darn! you were right :wink:
but now seriously i tryed to make it suit other aliens and if you ask me what other alien has 8 limb than look for yourself:

it's pretty sweet

 Isnt it? Im so glad you like alien-bat.

1. In walking mode this alien is the perfekt target

 just like other aliens

2. Without the ability to climb this creature is useless, it has to start from higher places

hmm, not really it can jump and fly away  :wink:

3. A flying creature without ranged attacks is very hard to control, and if you try to attack you will crash into the target.

It dont have to be this way, it could have larger range of direct attack(like tyran - he has so big range that dont have to be very near victim to kill it) do you understand my point? But a range attack would make this alien to powerful, flight should be a little bit difficult so that you could get some skills to get a good killer with it (just like dretch in wallwalk or goon with pounce) and talking about crashing on target could give some extra damage to victim

I love this guy, he has suggested an idea, but has got all the things to bring it to life, minus K0dez and stuff, very unusual, but highly welcomed.

hehe i was thinking a lot about it lately (had time to think since i was doing this model)

make it walk slow but give him the ability to flap upwards after he jumped

 thats what i was thinking about but it could be used as well on the ground so it cant b etoo slow...

Vector_Matt: sure, no secret i used good old Blender(ver. 2.44)

Nice art work shadow ninja xD
just like u said:
"They are all around us, all the time.
Be careful. Constant Vigilance is neccessary, be like the 1337man"
yeah its true they allways come out whan rain hits the ground(accidental relation, dont think so )

do you really wont me to make it with 6 legs? im not sure if that would look nice...
im waiting for nice ideas for this aliens name(please, just dont call it "umbrella of doom"xD) and any other suggestions
(im so glad no-one noticed his third eyexD)

Edit: thats how looks a 6 leg version

[HamStar]

We wunt moar models and aliens, and we need Taiyo to release his mr nice

[Samurai.mac]

It could be interesting to give it the ability to grab victims like the basilisk, so it swoops down and starts biting.

[doomagent13]

I'm pretty sure dretch has 10 legs.

6 around the sides and 4 sticking straight down from the body.

[Survivor]

Your first version looks better. And although I know the devs don't want a flying alien in stock trem this has been done so well up till now I'd at least like to see it in a mod doing its wonderful business.

[ShadowNinjaDudeMan]

There is no harm in trying really.

[player1]

possible names:

harrier
shrike
harpy
wampyri
stinger
lifedrinker
sapper
vandal
tigermoth
skeeter
arachnopter
dfa: playerhater
dretchfly

i also like batspider/spiderbat

if you wanna get latin on it, you could call it arthroptera (arthropod+ptera=winged bug)

how about tremulice? (plural of tremulouse)

Harrier: (6-legged?)
health: 50
costs 1 evo
avail. s2
while flying:
48hp headshot dmg (unhelmeted)
24 hp touch dmg
otherwise: 24 hp headshot dmg, 12 touch dmg

Adv. Harrier: (8-legged?)
health: 75
costs 2 evos
avail. s3
while flying:
72hp headshot dmg (unhelmeted)
36 hp touch damage
otherwise: 24 hp headshot dmg, 12 touch dmg
plus:
caustic spittle (like granger spit, but slightly more armor dmg/longterm effect)

movement speed slightly faster than basi when walking/running/wallwalking
flight speed slightly faster than jetpack

"C" - toggles wallwalk
"F" - makes "wings chittering" taunt
Note: wings make chittering noise while in flight; Harriers wallwalk silently, but make intermittent noises while flying (any change of motion makes noise)
[can jump while wallwalking as normal, using spacebar]
MOUSE3 enables flying mode (just like jetpack)
SPACEBAR is UP while flying
"C" is down while flying (and toggles wallwalk, that's right, oh yeah)
MOUSE1 is CAUSTIC SPIT
MOUSE2 charges mini-pounce (no damage, for launching attacks)
Note2: Harriers can "throw" themselves into flight, if they are high enough aloft on an object, or "flick" themselves at human heads if perched on a nearby structure.

All other direction keys work as normally. Sprint key ("X") enabled in flight mode only, adds speedburst while in flight. Otherwise movement is akin to a dretch with a jetpack: WASD, C & SPACEBAR, all respond as already coded for most classes. To go forward, press "W". To go higher, press spacebar. To go faster press "X". To stop flying hit mouse3/enter. No need to recode movement keys, mostly copy/paste from jetpack & dretch.

NB: You cannot evolve while wallwalking OR flying.
Also, note: Harriers can reac jump, but do very minimal structure damage by touching objects, only the long term damage which can be caused by caustic spittle (like poison for structures)

-w00t-
9 editz

[Vector_Matt]

Vector_Matt: sure, no secret i used good old Blender(ver. 2.44)

Drat, I was hoping it was something easy to learn quickly. Now I have to go download a Blender tutorial. :-?


The 8 leg version looks like an advanced version of the 6 leg version.

If it only has one version (like the dretch) it would be different depending on what stage it's available in. If it was available at S1 the 6 leg one would be better. If it's S3 (or mabey S2) then the 8 leg version fits better.

[player1]

since there is already a dretch, how about calling the new alien kvetch? (since everyone will bitterly complain about it..., besides which, it'll be especially nettlesome to t3h n00bly humanz0rz )

Harrier: Red Bodyparts, Gray (grey if u spell armoury like that) Wings
Adv. Harrier: Dark Red Bodyparts, Black Wings
Caustic spittle looks like acid tube effulgence, except maybe powder blue or something, instead of gatorade green (no creep value)

-snip- although I know the devs don't want a flying alien in stock trem this has been done so well up till now I'd at least like to see it in a mod doing its wonderful business.

plz excuse all my silly ideas
but i definitely agree
in return Human team gets:
super shotgun (s2), nailgun (s2) & railgun (s3) [from Quake/Doom legacy code?]
maybe a mod w/ more skybases?
AirWars, FTW!
but, srsly, maybe some floating bases, a la Tribes?

@Risujin
this would pwn in the arcade/balance mod

me am liking this idea, and yet....would it even be necessary? don't alienz already rule @ relicz? it would help balance out turretz in dom mode, tho... :hrm: u am make brain hurt...

[ShadowNinjaDudeMan]

Welll that wasnt too hard.

[gareth]

nice idea, i think not being able to fly up (only glide down) would be a bit limiting tho, something like moving the mouse back and forth steadly to raise height might be good, this would also mean it would be very hard to aim while going up.

nice model too, looks a bit wierd where the "bones" of the wings meet the body, like not very smooth.

it would also be cool if a few seconds after it landed on surface it became almost completely transparent.

i like it. please continue.

[Redsky]

I knew i can always count on pleyer1. He has lots of ideas and he doesn't mind sharing it with others   well first the names - i like very much this names:harpy(just like basilisk) vandal(like goon, mara,tyrant) wampyri(sounds nice )

but i definitely agree
in return Human team gets:
super shotgun (s2), nailgun (s2) & railgun (s3)

and how will little flying alien be any danger to this monsters???
I also like this idea with a caustic spit (not too powerful though) but should it be infinite(like grangers)?
Minipounce=>jump up & wave wings
jet pack way of flying would make players go: "omg, its just a alien with jet pack"  
about flying, i would make it pounce in mid air(wave wings) but with no recharging(it would boost up speed)(also with sound)... its model of flight i was thiinking of: glide + wave wing(with rightclick) whan it glides it slowly loses speed(please, tell me what you think of this flight model)<=if that could come true, flying would be more exciting than you could ever imagine
about 2 stages:6 and 8 leg would need two different animations, im not saying i cant do it :roll:

Vector_Matt: if you are as lazy as i am than try downloading and watching video tutorials. Its less painfull way of learning Blender  

i like it. please continue.

Thanks and no way i will stop  

[Survivor]

I also like this idea with a caustic spit (not too powerful though) but should it be infinite(like grangers)?

Instead of damage make it for a difficult to aim alien like this exactly like the granger spit. It slows humans down and makes them easier to hit.

about flying, i would make it pounce in mid air(wave wings) but with no recharging(it would boost up speed)(also with sound)... its model of flight i was thiinking of: glide + wave wing(with rightclick) whan it glides it slowly loses speed(please, tell me what you think of this flight model)

If anything a glide should come with an increase in speed until it lands or stops gliding while having a decrease in movement ability. Would be awesome to have a high place to glide from and stop gliding for a second to radically adjust course and continue.

about 2 stages:6 and 8 leg would need two different animations, im not saying i cant do it :roll:

Keep to 1 for now till you have it nearly done. Best for troubleshooting issues.

[Redsky]

If anything a glide should come with an increase in speed until it lands or stops gliding while having a decrease in movement ability. Would be awesome to have a high place to glide from and stop gliding for a second to radically adjust course and continue.

Im so sorry but i cant understand a word You said? can u explain it to me in other words? it seem you have some iteresting idea but i cant get the point... (UV-mapping right now <= my first UV-map  :oops: doesnt look too good i hope it works :roll: )
Edit: OMG, its 5h since i started UV-mapping, i guess ill take a break

[DASPRiD]

I like the idea of a flying alien. Most of the other dev's just develope Tremulous, but don't really play it (quite often). It's mostly annoying, when there are five jetards out there, but you are unable to get them. So, go on with the good work, I want to see a nice skin soon.

[Survivor]

Glide= speed>normal walking/jumping/(flying?) speed.

Example: Karith
Start Location: Outside balcony
Glide Down (sprint key?): due to high speed&small changes in direction hard to hit but also hard to adjust to the other player adjusting.
Stop glide key: Wings vertical, sort of like a brake parachute, can change direction freely like normal while slowly falling down.
Press glide key again: Wings normal, glide on.

In this way if you make its speed quite high relative to the others it would be zipping across the sky. If you have 2 you could easily confuse humans. But the hard part for this alien to me seems to be getting at a high point again after a failed glide attack. Don't know the walk speed or pounce height but I imagine those to be inadequate for a low speed alien, while making it high speed on the ground as well would make it a bit too strong.

[Redsky]

hmmm, "Stop glide key"=> midair brakes hmmm, i like it...

glide has no default speed, its speed comes from:
- starting speed
- speed form lift power
- speed from wings wave
- gravitation

that means you can nosedive to gain some speed or too attack than slowly move mouse up(lift power will be working in that moment) till camera will be vertical possition see yourself:


but idea of stop glide rox the house: u can press 'x' key and look around than press it once more and glide fly away