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Author Topic: Common base locations (and their names)  (Read 85493 times)
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« Reply #90 on: January 04, 2007, 11:19:27 PM »
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Yep, thats our window room. Actually never heard it called the side room, but if I do, I'll now know what they mean.
Edited the main post to reflect common usage.

Probably a lot more I should edit too, but... yea, lazy...
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« Reply #91 on: January 04, 2007, 11:25:13 PM »
BTW, another popular human spout on Niveus is what you call the potroom, except that it's called the garden now. If humans can place a base there, aliens stand practicaly no chance to take them out, and the room is a great HUB to access the rest of the map. Not counting the fact that it's very close to the favorite alien base spot and which makes it one of the best way to attack aliens then.
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« Reply #92 on: January 05, 2007, 02:23:11 AM »
Very interesting.  I've never seen a base there.
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« Reply #93 on: January 05, 2007, 06:18:21 AM »
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Very interesting.  I've never seen a base there.

Very common base, in the servers i play in anyway. I must agree that humans who successfully move there end up winning 75% of the time.
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« Reply #94 on: January 06, 2007, 02:26:21 AM »
Quote from: "Stof"
Myself, I used to call it the deathtrap room. As in, "Aliens are moving to the deathtrap room". I have yet to see the aliens win a game while on that room and facing real human oposition Cheesy
really? i've won there at least as many times as a lost while facing equal human competition. I agree it can be a death trap, if you dont have a good builder. I can build a pretty darn good base in the window room. You need at least 2 trappers. Usually 3 or 4.
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« Reply #95 on: January 19, 2007, 03:01:34 PM »
Humans in that cross-style garden? *whistles* I've seen only ONE build in there and it was horrific. I'd like to see some shots to learn from that one!
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« Reply #96 on: January 19, 2007, 05:15:41 PM »
I have never lost a game after a successful move to that spot Smiley

Properly defended, that spot is terrific, big aliens cannot get in range of the base without facing heavy chaingun/pulse fire. And since there are 3 exits for that room, aliens have a much much harder time pinning the humans in their base. This is the best base spot ever I say Wink
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« Reply #97 on: January 19, 2007, 06:13:19 PM »
It's easy to move there. First move reactor to left front corner in original base and build some defense. Now you can build in lamer spot. Move the reactor there, then you can build in plant room.
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« Reply #98 on: January 19, 2007, 06:56:25 PM »
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It's easy to move there. First move reactor to left front corner in original base and build some defense. Now you can build in lamer spot. Move the reactor there, then you can build in plant room.
That's 3 reactor moves, if aliens let you do that they are really lousy.
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« Reply #99 on: January 20, 2007, 09:56:33 AM »
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Humans in that cross-style garden? *whistles* I've seen only ONE build in there and it was horrific. I'd like to see some shots to learn from that one!

I've seen it only a pair of times, tbh, but worked well, and the bases weren't extremely well built (reactor was more protected than armory and defcomp, as if reactor was any weak). I'd say it can work great with a more sensitive building.

BTW, How about arachnid?
In the servers I play there is the habit of doing upstairs and building reactor behind boxes. Some guys like moving to the upper pipes (I hate every base where I can't get back for healing with my battery pack), and under stairs is generally considered a very bad move.
I myself, changed my mind recently about under stairs. Some days ago a under stairs desperate move produced a so much awful base that I decided to tweak it a bit. It resulted in the reactor on front, just behind a column. Armory behind reactor, and behind both of them defcomp + tesla + turret (protecting the hole). This is everything at one side, with medi at front of armory, ofc. Surrounding reactor (everything inside the understairs space) typical tesla + turrets combo. And, at the other side of the under-stairs-place 2 nodes.
It standed very well, even on SD. I won't try to say it's unbreakable, but stands much better than the upper stairs base uses to do for sure.
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« Reply #100 on: February 01, 2007, 08:04:02 PM »
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Quote from: "Jaradcel"

BTW, How about arachnid?
I myself, changed my mind recently about under stairs. Some days ago a under stairs desperate move produced a so much awful base that I decided to tweak it a bit. It resulted in the reactor on front, just behind a column. Armory behind reactor, and behind both of them defcomp + tesla + turret (protecting the hole). This is everything at one side, with medi at front of armory, ofc. Surrounding reactor (everything inside the understairs space) typical tesla + turrets combo. And, at the other side of the under-stairs-place 2 nodes.
It standed very well, even on SD. I won't try to say it's unbreakable, but stands much better than the upper stairs base uses to do for sure.


Can I see some screens of that? I'm having a little trouble visualizing that.
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« Reply #101 on: February 01, 2007, 09:01:11 PM »
Something along the lines of this I think. He might have meant for all the defences to be around reac but all non-defence buildings are as he described.
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« Reply #102 on: February 01, 2007, 09:04:02 PM »
I don't know...

Bases under the stairs generall don't do too well.
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« Reply #103 on: February 01, 2007, 10:07:25 PM »
The best defensive base is definitely in the pipe junction.
The best offensive is probably in the bend of one of the corridors between the alien base and the box room.
Can't remember which bend, though...
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« Reply #104 on: February 05, 2007, 10:23:11 AM »
Quote from: "Stof"
Myself, I used to call it the deathtrap room. As in, "Aliens are moving to the deathtrap room". I have yet to see the aliens win a game while on that room and facing real human oposition Cheesy

Lately, I've just been calling it the window room since it is what most people use.


I just call it the "no-exit" room, because if one human with bsuit stands in the door (after nading / lucying all defenses), no granger can escape anymore.
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« Reply #105 on: February 05, 2007, 02:12:19 PM »
orly? it depends how suckish that bsuit is, one egrengar can run it's ass off (if they have asses....), and while the bsuit chases that grengar another leaves the room, turns left, and goes up through the hole in the ceiling, waits for teh bsuit to leave, and then jumps down and begins to eggspam.....or they can get someone to uberly battlegrengar pwn the bsuit Wink
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« Reply #106 on: February 05, 2007, 02:14:55 PM »
Nope. If a bsuit stands in the door, there's no space for any anything bigger than a dretch to get out.
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« Reply #107 on: February 05, 2007, 08:46:06 PM »
has anyone tried building in that little hole near the alien base, I did once but we ended up losing because the maras kept attacking the turrets, and ended upo killing off the spawns
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« Reply #108 on: February 05, 2007, 11:32:19 PM »
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has anyone tried building in that little hole near the alien base, I did once but we ended up losing because the maras kept attacking the turrets, and ended upo killing off the spawns


Ah yes, ask gryf if you see him. He's taken to that spot lately. Very campy stuff, hard to win hard to lose.
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« Reply #109 on: February 06, 2007, 02:36:25 AM »
little hole near the alien base???
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« Reply #110 on: February 06, 2007, 10:06:15 AM »
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Something along the lines of this I think. He might have meant for all the defences to be around reac but all non-defence buildings are as he described.

Yep, that's it. It's with all defenses around reactor, but one behind the other side column. That's just details anyway  Tongue, the key point is the armory.
I insist that it isn't any kind of unbreakable base. I just say upstairs is very overrated imo and this one is stronger.
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« Reply #111 on: February 06, 2007, 05:31:34 PM »
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little hole near the alien base???


Yeah...

Can we get a screenshot?
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« Reply #112 on: February 06, 2007, 06:20:17 PM »
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Nope. If a bsuit stands in the door, there's no space for any anything bigger than a dretch to get out.
bsuit bbox is the same as a naked human. and if the aliens move there and they have a bsuit standing outside they better be S2, a grengar can just wallwalk out
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« Reply #113 on: February 06, 2007, 08:27:31 PM »
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little hole near the alien base???


Yeah...

Can we get a screenshot?
please. i wanna know what you're talking about.
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« Reply #114 on: February 06, 2007, 08:54:13 PM »
I think that he's talking about the vents above the alien's base....
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« Reply #115 on: February 06, 2007, 11:13:52 PM »
oh...

wouldn't have "vents" been a much better description than "little hole" then?
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« Reply #116 on: February 08, 2007, 03:42:48 PM »
hey I have a interesting idea, anyone try to build on the ledge above the original alien base? Acidtube
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« Reply #117 on: February 08, 2007, 05:23:36 PM »
That might be interesting.  The problem, though, is that the aliens have to move out of that area first, which they almost never do.
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« Reply #118 on: February 08, 2007, 06:42:03 PM »
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hey I have a interesting idea, anyone try to build on the ledge above the original alien base? Acidtube


Done a lot, but its not great.
Hard to do (dretch lift or mile walk), and hummies can shoot the fuck out of it real easy.

just egg spam.
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« Reply #119 on: February 08, 2007, 09:57:52 PM »
i think there is some confusion over whether we are talking about aliens building there, or humans building there.
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