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Author Topic: How To Make A Server (or, Using TJW's Server in Windows)  (Read 113255 times)
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« Reply #90 on: September 26, 2007, 12:00:45 AM »

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if your server is hitching for half an hour at mapstart you have issues.


Yeah... Sorry, but how can you tell how long it's been hitching? I'm not very knowledgeable in that area.
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« Reply #91 on: September 26, 2007, 12:22:43 AM »

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if your server is hitching for half an hour at mapstart you have issues.


Yeah... Sorry, but how can you tell how long it's been hitching? I'm not very knowledgeable in that area.
that one server frame (that is supposed to take 50ms) took half an hour, that's what the hitch message says (1608000msec = 26 minutes)
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« Reply #92 on: September 26, 2007, 01:53:30 AM »

lol, so basically im quite dead.   hmm...xD o well, i dun need a server that bad... D:
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« Reply #93 on: September 26, 2007, 04:49:12 PM »

Actually, I've seen that kind of weirdly long hitch time at startup before, and the server didn't ACTUALLY hitch for half an hour.  It's some kind of weird bug.  You can safely ignore hitch times at startup.  Only if you continually get "hitch time" warnings without doing anything should you be concerned.

Typically I see hitch time warnings:[list=1]
  • When clicking the scroll-bar on the console history on a Windows Tremulous server; or
  • When asking the server computer to run another program or do some other processing.[/list:o]I suspect number 2 would be less of a problem with multiple-core computers, since the new program would just be run on a different core.
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« Reply #94 on: September 26, 2007, 06:43:40 PM »

I updated the guide today.  Mostly this was cosmetic: I added section headings, and numbered all the subsections to they would be easier to reference.  Also, organizing this way makes the guide a lot easier to read.

I also changed some of the language in a few sections to make it clearer in small ways.  This was mostly because people have asked me questions they shouldn't have had to ask, so I suspected some things could be more clearly written.

I added a FAQ at the beginning, with clear answers to the eternal "SpawnVars" error question.

In the "how to ask for help" section I told people not to join Tremulous servers and ask questions, because it only annoys people.  I get that a lot.  Cheesy

If anyone has a suggestion for more FAQs to add to the list, by all means let me know!
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« Reply #95 on: September 26, 2007, 06:47:40 PM »

okay! thanks, so i will just let it sit for a while then it might work...
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« Reply #96 on: September 26, 2007, 08:11:53 PM »

Foobar, help me please!

 I followed your guide step by step but can't make the server work properly...

- Have downloaded all files provided in the sticky and checked again and again they are placed correctly.

- Have opened the 32123 port in my router.

- Have switched to an static ip.

- Have reinstalled Tremulous.

- Don't have any shady vms-blah.pk3's hanging around the base folder of the Tremulous installation I am hosting off of.

However, when I run tremserver.bat i still get this error:

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ERROR: G_ParseSpawnVars: found : when expecting {
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----- Server Shutdown (Server crashed: G_ParseSpawnVars: found : when expecting {) -----

I have read all the sticky and tried everything but just can't make it work  Sad

Thank you!
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« Reply #97 on: September 26, 2007, 08:47:26 PM »

Hi, Ishbb!  Well, the problem is obviously that your tremded.exe and game.qvm don't match.  So check those files very carefully.  In fact, this is what I would do:[list=1]
  • Delete the file C:\Program Files\Tremulous\tremded.exe , if it exists.
  • Delete the file C:\Documents and Settings\YourUserName\Local Settings\Application Data\Tremulous\tremded.exe , if it exists.
  • Delete the file C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\vm\game.qvm , if it exists.
  • Delete the file C:\Documents and Settings\YourUserName\Local Settings\Application Data\Tremulous\base\vm\game.qvm , if it exists.
  • Delete any other game.qvm or tremded.exe that you can find anywhere. Don't touch the file vms-1.1.0.pk3
  • Download tremded.exe from this link and move it to C:\Program Files\Tremulous\tremded.exe
  • Download game.qvm from this link and move it to C:\Documents and Settings\YourUserName\Local Settings\Application Data\Tremulous\base\vm\game.qvm[/list:o]Now try running your server.

    If this doesn't work, I don't know what to tell you. You must be doing something wrong.  Maybe you've got YourUserName wrong?  I would say, completely uninstall Tremulous and delete all of the Tremulous folders.  Re-install it, then do exactly steps 1-7 above.  If that doesn't work, I really don't know what to tell you.  You must have put some file in the wrong place somewhere.  Many, many other people have used this guide successfully, so you're definitely making a mistake somehow.

    If and when you eventually figure out the problem, please post it!  At least, if I know where the problem was, I can change the guide to help other people avoid the same problem.
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« Reply #98 on: September 27, 2007, 02:00:38 AM »

so should i just run my server and let it sit on until it stops hitching?  then is it workable?
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« Reply #99 on: September 27, 2007, 04:00:00 AM »

Sorry, I probably wasn't clear.  Two or three hitches, right when the server starts up, are normal.

However, if your server continuously gives hitch warnings for many minutes after it starts up, then you have one of three possible problems:[list=1]
  • You are fiddling with the server window scroll bar; or
  • You are running another program, like a web browser, a Tremulous client, Microsoft Word, or pretty much anything else; or
  • Your computer is just not powerful enough to run the Tremulous server.[/list:o]As far as I know, those are pretty much the only possibilities.  So if it's not #1 or #2, then I'm afraid you're stuck with #3 and you should either upgrade your computer, or give up on running a Tremulous server.  Sad
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« Reply #100 on: September 27, 2007, 01:13:10 PM »

I did it!  Cheesy

I had already given up and was deleting all folders I had created attempting to make the server. I clicked on a wrong folder by mistake and, when entered there, I saw a Tremulous folder I had not made.
I was like " :eek:, omg, I've found it!"

My mistake was that I created the user Tremulous folder in the "Application data" folder. However, my OS is not in English but in Catalan so I should have created it in the folder I got to, called "Dades de programes".

Quite a stupid mistake but enough not to let the server run. Thank you for your help!
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« Reply #101 on: September 27, 2007, 01:53:05 PM »

Oh, excellent!  Yes, that would explain everything, and it's not something I would ever have thought of.  Of course, it makes perfect sense!

I'll have to add something to the guide for Tremulous on non-English Windows systems...  Thanks for posting your result!
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« Reply #102 on: September 27, 2007, 04:39:25 PM »

thank god i got my server now!
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« Reply #103 on: September 27, 2007, 07:43:27 PM »

lol, everyones happy except fur me.... D:   xD
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« Reply #104 on: September 27, 2007, 10:43:06 PM »

YAY!!  NOW IM HAPPY!!  lol, it worked all along like u said, but i dun know how to join it....and i wanna get more admin cmds...
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« Reply #105 on: September 27, 2007, 11:14:27 PM »

Yeah, how do you make commands like !slap.
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« Reply #106 on: September 27, 2007, 11:40:50 PM »

Go to the mods forum and find a general-purpose mod with the stuff you want (such as Lakitu7's). You'll download a game.qvm, which you replace your "application data/tremulous/base/vm/game.qvm" with. Make sure to read all the directions.
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« Reply #107 on: September 27, 2007, 11:47:22 PM »

kewl!  but how do i join my server?
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« Reply #108 on: September 28, 2007, 12:08:10 AM »

If everything works perfectly: Open up Tremulous and find your server in the browser.

Actual real world: There's a number of things you can do. Try seeing if you can see your server under the "Local" source (as opposed to the "Internet" source). Make sure you are hitting "Get New List" and not "Refresh" whenever you look for your server using any source. Make sure your router's port forwarding is configured properly.

If none of the above is working, try selecting "New Favorite" in the server browser and entering in your IP (NOT your network IP), and check under your favorite servers if your server showed up.
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« Reply #109 on: September 28, 2007, 05:20:47 AM »

ok thanks!  my server is hosted!  yay, w00t!
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« Reply #110 on: September 29, 2007, 09:48:46 PM »

nuther problem.....people wit guids cant even connect....
and sumthin wrong....any ideas?
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« Reply #111 on: October 14, 2007, 06:30:44 PM »

I'm on Linux and when i use the tremded.x86 it fails it doesn't do anything at all.
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« Reply #112 on: October 14, 2007, 06:36:40 PM »

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Hi, Ishbb!  Well, the problem is obviously that your tremded.exe and game.qvm don't match.  So check those files very carefully.  In fact, this is what I would do:[list=1]
  • Delete the file C:\Program Files\Tremulous\tremded.exe , if it exists.
  • Delete the file C:\Documents and Settings\YourUserName\Local Settings\Application Data\Tremulous\tremded.exe , if it exists.
  • Delete the file C:\Program Files\Tremulous\base\vm\game.qvm , if it exists.
  • Delete the file C:\Documents and Settings\YourUserName\Local Settings\Application Data\Tremulous\base\vm\game.qvm , if it exists.
  • Delete any other game.qvm or tremded.exe that you can find anywhere. Don't touch the file vms-1.1.0.pk3
  • Download tremded.exe from this link and move it to C:\Program Files\Tremulous\tremded.exe
  • Download game.qvm from this link and move it to C:\Documents and Settings\YourUserName\Local Settings\Application Data\Tremulous\base\vm\game.qvm[/list:o]Now try running your server.

    If this doesn't work, I don't know what to tell you. You must be doing something wrong.  Maybe you've got YourUserName wrong?  I would say, completely uninstall Tremulous and delete all of the Tremulous folders.  Re-install it, then do exactly steps 1-7 above.  If that doesn't work, I really don't know what to tell you.  You must have put some file in the wrong place somewhere.  Many, many other people have used this guide successfully, so you're definitely making a mistake somehow.

    If and when you eventually figure out the problem, please post it!  At least, if I know where the problem was, I can change the guide to help other people avoid the same problem.
ok then how would a Linux user work it?
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« Reply #113 on: October 14, 2007, 07:44:58 PM »

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ok then how would a Linux user work it?


- By learning to read what is written in other topics
- By not pissing people off
- By not cross- / double-posting
- By doing it step by step and not trying to set a server up and modding it at the same time.
- By asking informed questions
- By NOT asking meta-questions
- By giving enough info so others could actually help you
- By NOT expecting a one-click-solution just because you asked.
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« Reply #114 on: October 14, 2007, 10:54:39 PM »

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ok then how would a Linux user work it?


- By learning to read what is written in other topics
- By not pissing people off
- By not cross- / double-posting
- By doing it step by step and not trying to set a server up and modding it at the same time.
- By asking informed questions
- By NOT asking meta-questions
- By giving enough info so others could actually help you
- By NOT expecting a one-click-solution just because you asked.

dude back off.
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« Reply #115 on: October 15, 2007, 01:36:37 AM »

no offence im still confuse dude lol Cheesy
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« Reply #116 on: November 13, 2007, 06:58:27 AM »

i get this error :S

4304 files in pk3 files
Loading vm file vm/game.qvm...
----- Server Shutdown (Server fatal crashed: vm/game.qvm does not have a recognisable magic number in its header) -----
Resolving master.tremulous.net
master.tremulous.net resolved to 208.116.49.110:30710
Sending heartbeat to master.tremulous.net
Sending heartbeat to master.tremulous.net
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vm/game.qvm does not have a recognisable magic number in its header

can someone please help me with this?

thanks
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« Reply #117 on: November 13, 2007, 08:56:01 AM »

You're sure you've got the latest svn or TJW's build?
And a good combi of game.qvm and tremded?
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« Reply #118 on: November 13, 2007, 06:55:40 PM »

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i get this error :S

vm/game.qvm does not have a recognisable magic number in its header

can someone please help me with this?

thanks


Known bug fixed in newer SVN.
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« Reply #119 on: December 12, 2007, 12:07:43 AM »

how do you edit your server and how do you become higher than level 0 ADMIN ON YOUR OWN SERVER!
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