GTCliff sabotates game after game

[baybal]

What pusy gave him admin rights?

1. He attacked structures at spawn
2. When I killed him, he pushed me off the ledge and i died
3. He continued to grief me the whole game by attacking me as a teammate
4. He abused putteam, by kicking out last aliens in the game for "resisting to face the enemy"
5. On next map he killed me in the critial moment in the game, at spawn so we lost that game
6. He continuously muted me for calling him lamer
7. He continuously called admit_defeat game after game
8. He kicked me for solely asking my team to build, now i have 24 hour ban from him.

I'm waiting to see him demoted as that warlock guy. Just as the last time I have all demoes.

[1337-Kynes]

Please post the demos, we really can't come to any conclusion without evidence. Also, just one thing that jumped out at me, I've witnessed your lamer spam before, and it doesn't surprise me a bit that you got muted for it.

[Flux]

*Pussy

[kharnov]

 

[baybal]

Please post the demos, we really can't come to any conclusion without evidence. Also, just one thing that jumped out at me, I've witnessed your lamer spam before, and it doesn't surprise me a bit that you got muted for it.

My objections not coming from the fact that he muted me for "lamer", but the fact that he pestered game after game coninuously. Do I have a right to call him lamer in a retaliation since I cant even call a vote to get rid of him?

[baybal]

http://www.mediafire.com/?4tdx37gxdjujv5x

[baybal]

Any comments?

[1337-Kynes]

That's a massive amount of demo, it will take some time/patience to get through. And frankly, in light of your previous wolf-crying and the beginning of the pulse game (where you tk silverfox right at the start), I'm not sure if many people will feel very compelled to go through it all.

[baybal]

He tried to kill the repeater. That is why i killed him

[kharnov]

Except that everyone kills the repeater, because it isn't even powering anything. You can check this with a construction kit.

[baybal]

Except that everyone kills the repeater, because it isn't even powering anything. You can check this with a construction kit.

It prevents nodes from self destroying

[1337-Kynes]

ok, I guess you've forgotten from your previous baseless abuse thread regarding a game on pulse (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=15678.0), but the nodes will die in several minutes if the reactor does not go up. If you can't get the reactor up in that time you are dead, and if you do get it up, you will keep spawning at those nodes until somebody kills that repeater. In other words, killing that repeater is a pretty common first move.

[baybal]

It's not for something like one person's opinion to decide. Most human wins on pulse that i've seen were with late start however.

It's easily possible for humans to push through aliens after first two minutes.

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It's completely not for one person to decide.

The same for votepassing admit defeats and draws. Allmost all maps are winnable even with l1 setup or places that seem to be accessible only with JP (it's possible to kill human camping in went at the end of the game, same for other side (the can shoot camping alien from the edge of the lava dam).

[1337-Kynes]

It's not for something like one person's opinion to decide. Most human wins on pulse that i've seen were with late start however.

It's easily possible for humans to push through aliens after first two minutes.

This is not relevant, and it looks like your first two points are invalid. I'll keep slogging through it when I have time.

[baybal]

It's not for something like one person's opinion to decide. Most human wins on pulse that i've seen were with late start however.

It's easily possible for humans to push through aliens after first two minutes.

This is not relevant, and it looks like your first two points are invalid. I'll keep slogging through it when I have time.

Thank you. He have pushed me of the edge - TK, it's a fact and it's in the demo. He decided to kill repeater - griefing.

[1337-Kynes]

The repeater kill was not griefing, I have no idea why you still cling to that. As for the tk, meh. It might not have been the best thing to do, but you did tk him right before that. He also took his time pushing you, it would have been simple to move out of the way at any point. I'm not saying that justifies it, but it sure doesn't make it seem very sinister.

Some specific times within the demos would make seeing your point of view a lot less painful.

[baybal]

He did grief me after the spawn, it's your duty as an admin to administer thins now. Go and look through the demo.

 He continues at atcs, you may scroll the demo to the time when the message that he killed me shows in the console.

Do you have a demo player?

[1337-Kynes]

Ok at 13 minutes in the pulse game, an SD votes passes. Right when it passes you move rc far away from base. Then, you go back to base and start deconning things. This causes silverfox to putteam you. Then you spammed "ABUSE" until he muted you. I'm done with this, you have wasted my time, and I'm considering extending your ban.

EDIT:
Out of masochistic desire, I watched the rest of the demos, and it turns out, in all of 9 demos, silverfox still hasn't abused as a far as I can tell. There was a mute that was probably meant to extend your mute from the last minute of the previous game, and you might not have understood that. Other than that, nothing. If anything, silverfox was lenient. I would have banned you after that decon stunt in the first game. Throughout the rest of the demos, you make an ass out of yourself repeatedly with your abuse accusations, and the occasional bleed (most of this was probably unintentional, but it is hard to tell). Looking back on it, you were either trying to bait silverfox, or you really are a complete moron.

[baybal]

Do you mean Cliff=Silverfox?

[1337-Kynes]

Do you mean Cliff=Silverfox?

Yes, I kind of forgot that that wasn't common knowledge, didn't mean to out his alias.

[baybal]

Ok at 13 minutes in the pulse game, an SD votes passes. Right when it passes you move rc far away from base. Then, you go back to base and start deconning things. This causes silverfox to putteam you. Then you spammed "ABUSE" until he muted you. I'm done with this, you have wasted my time, and I'm considering extending your ban.

EDIT:
Out of masochistic desire, I watched the rest of the demos, and it turns out, in all of 9 demos, silverfox still hasn't abused as a far as I can tell. There was a mute that was probably meant to extend your mute from the last minute of the previous game, and you might not have understood that. Other than that, nothing. If anything, silverfox was lenient. I would have banned you after that decon stunt in the first game. Throughout the rest of the demos, you make an ass out of yourself repeatedly with your abuse accusations, and the occasional bleed (most of this was probably unintentional, but it is hard to tell). Looking back on it, you were either trying to bait silverfox, or you really are a complete moron.

>I would have banned you after that decon stunt in the first game.

>This causes silverfox to putteam yo

What decon studnt are you talking? He didn't putteam me! Kynes have you seen the demo or you just telling what that guy told to you?

His actions had zero legitimacy.

Actions on the 13th minute have close to no impact on the game as last aliens were camping outside already.

>Throughout the rest of the demos, you make an ass out of yourself repeatedly with your abuse accusations, and the occasional bleed

Did I bled him?

[1337-Kynes]

In the pulse game you did move the rc without warning far away from base near SD (rc move at 13:14), and you did decon structures. Humans did pull off a win, so your decon might have been ok there, I really don't feel like looking through it again tonight. Silverfox putteamed Menace right as the game ended because he was the last alien alive, and he was in an invincible place. To the sleepy kynes, the word "putteam" happened, and suddenly you weren't playing, sorry about the misunderstanding there. However, the spamming did happen, and both the mute and putteam were legitimate.

I don't know if you bled silverfox specifically or not, beyond the first game; I just saw a few, probably intentional, minor shots into structures.

I'll concede that the decon was just a silly end game thing, and I suppose it is unreasonable to ban you for it. In retrospect you are slightly less of a dick than I thought, but that isn't the point.

I went through most of the demos quickly, but I did double check the parts where an admin did something to you, and guess what, every single time it was justified.

[baybal]

I'll concede that the decon was just a silly end game thing, but none of this changes how ridiculous your accusations are. Every single time silverfox acted, there was justification for it.

No, there weren't. Stop BSing. Go watch atcs demo, he continues there

[1337-Kynes]

He callvoted a mute, and it passed. No admin at all. I wasn't BSing, I went on a sleep-deprived rage-induced tirade that was mostly factual. I got some of my off-topic details mixed up, but everything that applies to silverfox's admin was correct. You are the one BSing here, and would you please post times where you think abuse is occuring. Going through all of the demos is a waste of time, and the only way to do it is to speed things up, which inevitably causes some details to be missed.

[kharnov]

What? Baybal is making up abuse claims again? Why, that's completely unprecedented!

[Dracone]

[/dev/humancontroller]

Baybal is making up abuse claims again?

it is in the interest of the community not to fall for GT bullshit, like kharnov's!

[baybal]

on pulse
9:00
9:45
on atcs
4:15

Can't remember other times when he FF/TK me right now

[Duke_Forever]

Instead of killing him for the decon, why didn't you just ask or call a vote?

[CreatureofHell]

Instead of killing him for the decon, why didn't you just ask or call a vote?

Actions speak louder than words.