RC/repeater ''power rings''

[TANK]

Nice idea. It must be in Trem 1.2.
At Unlimited will be easier(in time) to play -> and me return back on CZ server .

[Nux]

Since you're just spawning the model separately with new code, it's best that you make an axis-aligned cylinder which extends all the way up and down, as that's how the powered-range works. The only reason I suggested a sphere is for when it's fixed to the model's orientation, which it doesn't seem to be here.

No, power works by measuring the 3d distance, so a sphere is correct.

So it is! My mistake. I guess trem maps are just flatter than I thought.

who is this cocksucker named gimhael? he is showing features (including models and source code) from the Amsterdam Unlimited server, as if they were his work.

Care to elaborate?

[/dev/humancontroller]

who is this cocksucker named gimhael? he is showing features (including models and source code) from the Amsterdam Unlimited server, as if they were his work.

Care to elaborate?

the power area and buildable range display is implemented on Amsterdam Unlimited (two 1.2 servers). upon connecting to AU, u will download client-side mods, including the icosphere model, the AU cgame&ui with the said functionality, and (due to GPL licensing) the source code for client-side mods. gimhael stole the models and source code from there.

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

the power area and buildable range display is implemented on Amsterdam Unlimited (two 1.2 servers). upon connecting to AU, u will download client-side mods, including the icosphere model, the AU cgame&ui with the said functionality, and (due to GPL licensing) the source code for client-side mods. gimhael stole the models and source code from there.

post the source, lets compare the code.  i'm not saying it wouldent happen, but in an open source community, i'm skeptical someone would be that blatent about ripping something off without giving proper credit.  i mean you even said it was GPLed, simplicity itself to use it and give proper credit.

[/dev/humancontroller]

post the source, lets compare the code.

at the time of this writing, the latest, relevant files are au12-data-007.pk3 (this actually contains the models) and au12-qvms-012.pk3; the latter pk3 file contains the patch: diff-r2186gpp.patch.

[gimhael]

I don't play on AU, so I didn't know you already had this. If I knew I wouldn't have bothered to code it myself.

The CG_AddSphere/CG_DrawSphere code looks similar, but the function just initializes a refEntity and passes it on to the renderer, I wouldn't expect much variation there.

[F50]

who is this cocksucker named gimhael? he is showing features (including models and source code) from the Amsterdam Unlimited server, as if they were his work.

*sigh*

Dude, first of all I don't see why conceptually gimhael could not have coded this himself, its not particularly complicated, assuming he already knew roughly what he was doing. As for the model, its a freaking sphere, I think it would be prudent to assume that someone could have created a sphere sufficiently similar to someone else's sphere, don't you?

Secondly, why are you so vehement about this? I do my best to adhere to hanlon's razor, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence." Even if this is code-stealing, as you put it, it is minimal, and conceivable, and relatively unimportant (we are not talking about monetary damages, I assume), I submit that given no way to prove that the code is in fact stolen, it is wise to assume that it is not.

Finally, gimhael's code conforms to tremulous naming conventions, not the naming conventions of your code.



Also, it seems that your patch has stubs for trapper range visualization, nice.

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

Also, it seems that your patch has stubs for trapper range visualization, nice.

that's something i was going to bring up.  having a rough estimate "cone of fire" for alien structures would be nice.

[/dev/humancontroller]

I don't

[usually]

play on AU, so I didn't know you already had this.

sure, the plausibility of that is high. i can't say the same about its probability.

I do my best to adhere to hanlon's razor

i do my best to adhere to Occam's razor.
however, i do have to agree that all this is

relatively unimportant

.

[SirDude]

make the Bubble Cell-Shaded? i think that would improve edge visibility.

[Menace13]

I don't

[usually]

play on AU, so I didn't know you already had this.

sure, the plausibility of that is high. i can't say the same about its probability.

I do my best to adhere to hanlon's razor

i do my best to adhere to Occam's razor.
however, i do have to agree that all this is

relatively unimportant

.

Firstly, all you're going to do is start a flame war. You have no proof that he stole this from AU, and since the codes are different it kinda gives his case more reliability. If AU has Tremstats (I couldn't find any) you could simply check that for him. If he's not there, he's never connected. End of story. Also, why would you randomly add "[usually]" into there? You don't KNOW that he has EVER gone there, do you? Also, you are taking little pieces of peoples' posts and manipulating them to your advantage. That's always a bad idea. Lastly, if you have nothing positive to say, don't say anything at all. You are making accusations without knowing whether or not they are true. That's never a good idea.

make the Bubble Cell-Shaded? i think that would improve edge visibility.

Probably easier said than done SirDude.

[SirDude]

One word.

Warsow.


Its Q3 engine based.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtJKrIngTIs

[/dev/humancontroller]

You have no proof that he stole this from AU

and it is generally true that one can only know and possibly be wrong, or be at most certain.

You don't KNOW that he has EVER gone there, do you?

in fact i do (unless someone named gimhael/Matthias was an impostor).

[Tremulant]

(due to GPL licensing)

Even if gimhael did happen to use your code(and i'm not suggesting for a moment that he did), he's stealing nothing.

One word.

Warsow.

Its Q3 engine based.

One word, Qfusion. That ain't no Q3.
I believe cell shading is possible in q3, but quite what you want cell shaded or what that would achieve, i don't know.

[Menace13]

One word.

Warsow.

Its Q3 engine based.

One word, Qfusion. That ain't no Q3.
I believe cell shading is possible in q3, but quite what you want cell shaded or what that would achieve, i don't know.

Celshading is possible, but having just one thing celshaded might be hard. Some clients have celshading in them, but I dunno if you can have only certain things celshaded. Having everything celshaded seems like it would be easier. I dunno.

[gimhael]

You have no proof that he stole this from AU

and it is generally true that one can only know and possibly be wrong, or be at most certain.

You don't KNOW that he has EVER gone there, do you?

in fact i do (unless someone named gimhael/Matthias was an impostor).

You're right, I checked my .tremulous folder and I do have a au/ subfolder with your pk3 dated 2010-08-21, so I have to admit that I did in fact connect to AU.

[Odin]

Couldn't you use OpenGL's stencil features to draw lines where the sphere intersects with the walls/floor? I'm pretty sure I've seen this done in a bunch of other games from Q3's era.

[ziplocpeople]

Celshading is possible, but having just one thing celshaded might be hard. Some clients have celshading in them, but I dunno if you can have only certain things celshaded. Having everything celshaded seems like it would be easier. I dunno.

If you want to be literal, there aren't any clients with _celshading_. Your client simply modifies the textures while loading the map to make it look celshaded.

[sirshiz]

F50, what is the possibility of testing these ideas ("power rings" and defensive structure ranges) on your test server?
These would be excellent additions to Tremulous if they work well.   

[F50]

Very possible. For the very moment, I'd like to keep the number of changes on my server to an reasonably minimal level, but this will be added to the list of upcomming mods. That will also give some time for this to progress, perhaps to trapper cones etc.

[sirshiz]

Thank you F50. I look forward to it.

[Anonymoose]

who is this cocksucker named gimhael? he is showing features (including models and source code) from the Amsterdam Unlimited server, as if they were his work.

I wrote a 'hello world' program once, my friend must have copied my code because he wrote it after i did mine. i know how you feel man.

[RAKninja-Decepticon]

who is this cocksucker named gimhael? he is showing features (including models and source code) from the Amsterdam Unlimited server, as if they were his work.

I wrote a 'hello world' program once, my friend must have copied my code because he wrote it after i did mine. i know how you feel man.

any morrowind companions scripted after the late part of last year are obviously stolen from my scripts.

[Qrntz]

who is this cocksucker named gimhael? he is showing features (including models and source code) from the Amsterdam Unlimited server, as if they were his work.

I wrote a 'hello world' program once, my friend must have copied my code because he wrote it after i did mine. i know how you feel man.

any morrowind companions scripted after the late part of last year are obviously stolen from my scripts.

Any sentence beginning in 'any' is stolen from me. No exceptions.

[Lakitu7]

Gimhael this looks like it's on its way so please do not let DevHC freaking out discourage you from continuing to work on it. Thanks for the work so far.

[/dev/humancontroller]

Let's assume nothing happened, and continue with showing off!

[/dev/humancontroller]

building the 5th repeater on niveus, in a small, non-powered zone

a trapper and a hive is covering the window room door

a small forward base is built on the edge of a creep zone provided by a distant egg

spectators can see buildable spaces of both teams; reactor power is shown coming out of the red base, creep is shown coming out of the tunnel

a dretch is trolling below the turning range of a badly placed turret

welcome to the disco zone, a reactorless, 24-buildpoint base; every buildable is supported by the DC in the back

a greedy lisk

contrary to popular will, UBP will not cause significant degradation of visibility xD

[/dev/humancontroller]

by the way, all this is available at the Amsterdam Unlimited servers.

[CreatureofHell]

a dretch is trolling below the turning range of a badly placed turret

Be careful! If you don't place your turrets correctly Dretches will troll you!

[Qrntz]

a dretch is trolling below the turning range of a badly placed turret

Be careful! If you don't place your turrets correctly Dretches will troll you!