Stuff to make a HD tremulous

[Pazuzu]

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Before is on the left.
After is on the right.

And we didn't even do all the effects yet.

Looks good harraps though.

+1

That kind of looks like you just threw in a few lighting/contrast effects and maybe sharpened it a bit. Anything else?

[Tremulant]

I thought he just scaled, unsharped and screwed up the colours.

Dragoon, now with stone paved legs and leather patches...
http://imgur.com/DDQ3j.jpg

[harraps]

Lonly, I really like your textures but I've got 2 questions.
Why don't you use the Xreal engine if your are making a HD tremulous?
You're saying you increase the polycount and the texture size, but why don't you use heightmap or normalmap and md5 models.
Those things don't need a lot of work to make.

[Tremulant]

Lonly, I really like your textures

Can you explain why, so that i may like them too?

[Asvarox]

kind of a improvement from 512x512 ones to me, but I'm far far away from calling it HD quality.

[Lonly]

I have sod-all idea what i'm doing, but hey, doesn't that noise look nice.

Doing Noise Reduction...

Mind telling me how you did that?

Lonly, I really like your textures but I've got 2 questions.
Why don't you use the Xreal engine if your are making a HD tremulous?
You're saying you increase the polycount and the texture size, but why don't you use heightmap or normalmap and md5 models.
Those things don't need a lot of work to make.

I'm considering using XReal, it looks really good.

[Tremulant]

I have sod-all idea what i'm doing, but hey, doesn't that noise look nice.

Doing Noise Reduction...

Mind telling me how you did that?

Erm, how i did what? Do you think i removed the noise? Left's before, right's after, i added it, to give the false impression of extra detail at higher resolutions.

texture's here http://i.imgur.com/TxjRI.jpg

[Lonly]

HD Rifle (Without Noise) and HD Flash...



I took the one Tremulant gave me and applied Color Vibrant.

[Pazuzu]

HD Rifle (Without Noise) and HD Flash...

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I took the one Tremulant gave me and applied Color Vibrant.

You don't make the graphics for a whole game using filters. Fact.

[Tamaru]

tremulous after photoshop filters?


looks like some seriously hard work.

[Tremulant]

Oh, but lonly, does that mean that all the hard work you did on:

is wasted?

You're supposedly a pr0 modder who's about to start an xreal port of trem and yet you decided to take my amateurish attempt and fuck it up further, rather than doing something original with your leet skills? Curious.

Come on people, if you can't even manage to produce something less half-arsed than my attempt, don't bother...

[Pazuzu]

Oh, but lonly, does that mean that all the hard work you did on:

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is wasted?

You're supposedly a pr0 modder who's about to start an xreal port of trem and yet you decided to take my amateurish attempt and fuck it up further, rather than doing something original with your leet skills? Curious.

Come on people, if you can't even manage to produce something less half-arsed than my attempt, don't bother...

He supposedly did some original models for the [FuN] mod, but I still haven't seen it. I smell vaporware.

[Lonly]

I lost all the models from the old FuN Mod when my computer broke.

We don't have it anymore. It was on the server at one time, so some people may still have it.

+

I don't have Adobe Photoshop, I've been using Gimp.

[Tremulant]

I don't have Adobe Photoshop, I've been using Gimp.

Same here, thanks for the PM, lonly, btw.
No, i don't particularly feel like doing the same for the shotgun for you, but i will tell you roughly what i did.
Open original texture, scale to 400%, apply gegl's bilinear filtering(you'd probably get better results with g'mic's anisotropic noise reduction but i couldn't be bothered to install it on this box at the time), add correlated rgb noise to a sensible level.

[Lonly]

I don't have Adobe Photoshop, I've been using Gimp.

Same here, thanks for the PM, lonly, btw.
No, i don't particularly feel like doing the same for the shotgun for you, but i will tell you roughly what i did.
Open original texture, scale to 400%, apply gegl's bilinear filtering(you'd probably get better results with g'mic's anisotropic noise reduction but i couldn't be bothered to install it on this box at the time), add correlated rgb noise to a sensible level.

Thank you

[jm82792]

That's it, scale it and keep the ratio or trem will spit it out.
Although dding more detail or totally doing new ones would be much better.

[harraps]

I found something in my language !? 

http://tremulous-fr.org/forum/index.php?p=low&mode=topic&id=638&sid=25e4245bc2d0115ec7a5c9150ff16a2b

Maybe the most interesting thing you could found.

[Tremulant]

and what is it exactly? looks like a load of xreal screenshots and trem with some noise and a silly, though admittedly pretty, over the top hud.

[Pazuzu]

Votre travail est tout simplement remarquable ! (Google translation: "Your work is simply outstanding !")

I see no "work" on that thread, only demonstrations of features that are already available in most modern games. I'm filing this under "vaporware".

[jm82792]

The only thing that scares me about xreal porting is getting the physics of the game.
Models, animations and crap aren't the scary/hard part, well not easy but it's self explanatory and has instant feedback, plus is hard to mess up.

[Odin]

The only thing that scares me about xreal porting is getting the physics of the game.

What? XreaL has the same physics as Q3(which Tremulous is based off of). It's the same game engine as ioquake3, with a re-written renderer.

[jm82792]

What I mean by the physics is the gameplay because from what I can understand Xreal uses MD3's(our current assets as place holders) and when you have stuff that already works we can upgrade them later.

[Odin]

What I mean by the physics is the gameplay because from what I can understand Xreal uses MD3's(our current assets as place holders) and when you have stuff that already works we can upgrade them later.

You're confusing like 5 different things here.

[Tamaru]

Xreal uses Md5 and mtf formats for shaders.



oh and lonly.... why dont you SHOW us something, instead of asking people do stuff for you

also HD trem? they're gonna come out with 1.2 and completely null out your "HD TREM" project.


If you want to develop, go learn first... then maybe, just MAYBE, people might respect you a little.

[jm82792]

Working 6 days a week has been taking some toll on my brain  

[Odin]

Xreal uses Md5 and mtf formats for shaders.

*mtr
And it can use md3 as well, and in Q3compat mode can read .shader files.

[CreatureofHell]

It'll be funny when these HD trems are about to be released and 1.2 shows up.

[Pazuzu]

It'll be funny when these HD trems are about to be released and 1.2 shows up.

Not if one of them comes out before Thursday.

[Fox One]

Frankly, if you want a higher quality render output, it's not so much the models that need to be changed. Rendering lots of polys is still hard and a waste of time. The client engine really needs to be written to include some form of modern bump mapping such as parallax or normal mapping so that more complicated geometry can be simulated without significant increases on hardware requirements. Displacement mapping would be really nice. Solving graphics ugliness by increasing game model detail is the brute force method and isn't really as effective as other, cheaper (in terms of hardware load) solutions.

Also, none of these improvements are going to look really good unless and until we get dynamic lighting and soft shadows.

'High Definition' is marketing bullshit. As has been noted already, its only real technical meaning has to do with display resolution. When used as a descriptor in any other context it's meaningless (do commercials for 'HD audio' bother anyone else?).

[Pazuzu]

'High Definition' is marketing bullshit. As has been noted already, its only real technical meaning has to do with display resolution. When used as a descriptor in any other context it's meaningless (do commercials for 'HD audio' bother anyone else?).

+1 for this. Tremulous already has HD, in fact, it works with any resolution if you use the custom mode.