Many humans DIED to bring you this GUIDE - Dretching Video Tutorial

[Conzul]

To quote Firstinaction, "the next one will be better."
It's my first attempt at video editing and compositing, and it shows. Don't care though. It's for ppl who can't read a written guide anyway. If you are such a person(or know one), and looking to slow the tide of your feeding, have a cup of something while you watch this 5-min 40-sec trainer.



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I'll start work on a basilisk guide. If anyone wishes to help (or send me footage), it would be appreciated and credited.

[jez]

Very nice. Best Dretching guide I've seen by far, and I'd been very interested to see a basi follow up. A couple of things to add:

I'd stress the value of poison for dretches, especially in later stages. Poisoning well armoured humans then running away forces them to use up their medkit/return to base/be much more vulnerable to your allies, and that's often about as good as a dretch can hope for later on.

Also, mention that that the gpp dretch does less damage than the 1.1 dretch, and that the headshot modifier has been lowered (previously the headshot was 96 I think?).

Also a question, is it possible for a dretch to pull off ground headbites on a bsuit, or is that out of range?

[Conzul]

Very nice. Best Dretching guide I've seen by far, and I'd been very interested to see a basi follow up. A couple of things to add:

I'd stress the value of poison for dretches, especially in later stages. Poisoning well armoured humans then running away forces them to use up their medkit/return to base/be much more vulnerable to your allies, and that's often about as good as a dretch can hope for later on.

Also, mention that that the gpp dretch does less damage than the 1.1 dretch, and that the headshot modifier has been lowered (previously the headshot was 96 I think?).

Also a question, is it possible for a dretch to pull off ground headbites on a bsuit, or is that out of range?

GPP dretch does 36 damage per bite, 2x/per second(mentioned near beginning). the headshot modifier has been dropped to 50%. IDK how to attack Bsuits, I'm still not sure after these months exactly where their head is.
TY for interest

[Meisseli]

Also since you're using those nice ATCS ramps you might point out how to properly use ramps against S1 humans: gives you a free headshot.

Basilisk: while grabbing, go behind or on top of their head. If humans hug a wall, wallwalk to grab a human's head. Don't go rampaging against lots of humans. And don't rush blindly - remember you're a healer first, killer second. Taking unnecessary risks ends up on you getting killed which usually hurts you and your team a lot.

1.1 dretch = 48 damage, 2x headshot modifier.
1.2 dretch = 36 damage, 1,5x headshot modifier.

Also: I see at 1:56 in your video a prime example on how to not ambush a human. You stayed on the ground which forced you to make three bites to kill him. That almost got you killed. Instead, you should've headshotted him first from ground and then jumped for another headshot.

[Firstinaction]

HAHA,. Nice guid...     It helped even though im not a noob

[Conzul]

Also: I see at 1:56 in your video a prime example on how to not ambush a human. You stayed on the ground which forced you to make three bites to kill him. That almost got you killed. Instead, you should've headshotted him first from ground and then jumped for another headshot.

Dude it was a builder @1:56 he couldn't have killed me if he was warlock. I don't usually jump even after the first bite, because some more experienced humans have the skill to hear the jump and dodge in a random direction. You method is preferable, but not absolutely necessary.

Nice guid...     It helped even though im not a noob

-.-

[Saliva]

One thing worth mentioning is that you should always try to avoid spending time as a dretch as much as possible because humans are superior to you and you most likely will feed. Building instead is a good way to get evos without dretching as well as evolving to a higher class as soon as you get evos. So in a way being a good dretch means you are good with other classes too.

[jm82792]

I really liked it.
Repatition, my friend who lives 20 feet from me is a dretch nut but refuses to play until 1.2 is final so I've been looking for pointers.

[UniqPhoeniX]

Excellent guide! Could have mentioned no jumping during an ambush, and avoiding it whenever possible.

[Kiwi]

Nice Job!  Best tut I've seen so far!  Your narration was smooth and easy to understand which is very important, as you can imagine.  Keep up the good work!

"When you get to their feet it's time to eat"

[Conzul]

Yeah, Khalsa appeared to me in a dream and told me to put the bad puns in or he'd torment me by burning my Kyp story. Then I woke up.

Excellent guide! Could have mentioned no jumping during an ambush, and avoiding it whenever possible.

This will be pointed out in my upcoming basilisk guide, since that applies to both it and the dretch, and since they both excel at ambush.

[Meisseli]

Also: I see at 1:56 in your video a prime example on how to not ambush a human. You stayed on the ground which forced you to make three bites to kill him. That almost got you killed. Instead, you should've headshotted him first from ground and then jumped for another headshot.

Dude it was a builder @1:56 he couldn't have killed me if he was warlock. I don't usually jump even after the first bite, because some more experienced humans have the skill to hear the jump and dodge in a random direction. You method is preferable, but not absolutely necessary.

No, by the time he has been bitten once by you it doesn't matter if you make any noise or not. The jump really helps you nail a second headshot. Although it was a very minor part of the film some things like this irritate me a lot

Overall, very nice guide, though I wouldn't mind if you updated the video with new footage from the tips discussed here before moving on to basilisk. Perfection is a virtue!

[Conzul]

Also: I see at 1:56 in your video a prime example on how to not ambush a human. You stayed on the ground which forced you to make three bites to kill him. That almost got you killed. Instead, you should've headshotted him first from ground and then jumped for another headshot.

Dude it was a builder @1:56 he couldn't have killed me if he was warlock. I don't usually jump even after the first bite, because some more experienced humans have the skill to hear the jump and dodge in a random direction. You method is preferable, but not absolutely necessary.

No, by the time he has been bitten once by you it doesn't matter if you make any noise or not. The jump really helps you nail a second headshot. Although it was a very minor part of the film some things like this irritate me a lot

Overall, very nice guide, though I wouldn't mind if you updated the video with new footage from the tips discussed here before moving on to basilisk. Perfection is a virtue!

You're right, of course, but I'm doing one basic guide per alien except for the dretch. I feel that it has enough depth of play to warrant an advanced follow-up.
Hey, at least they know not to move in a straight line now, right?

[superspirality]

Kudos to you, Conzul, excellent guide!

HAHA,. Nice guid...     It helped even though im not a noob

Orlylolwhat?

[Meisseli]

You're right, of course, but I'm doing one basic guide per alien except for the dretch. I feel that it has enough depth of play to warrant an advanced follow-up.
Hey, at least they know not to move in a straight line now, right?

Eh, really? If I were to make two guides I wouldn't make one from dretch, it being just a feeder and cannon fodder right now no matter how experienced you are, an alien you want to ditch as soon as possible because it isn't of use.

[Conzul]

You're right, of course, but I'm doing one basic guide per alien except for the dretch. I feel that it has enough depth of play to warrant an advanced follow-up.
Hey, at least they know not to move in a straight line now, right?

Eh, really? If I were to make two guides I wouldn't make one from dretch, it being just a feeder and cannon fodder right now no matter how experienced you are, an alien you want to ditch as soon as possible because it isn't of use.

I slightly disagree with you there. Though not common, the dretch is very powerful during s1. Of course, once the helms are passed around, one should evolve, but I often let my evos spill over 9 during s1, just so I can make easy kills and not give away so much money when I die. On the pubs naturally, scrims R different.

[Meisseli]

You're right, of course, but I'm doing one basic guide per alien except for the dretch. I feel that it has enough depth of play to warrant an advanced follow-up.
Hey, at least they know not to move in a straight line now, right?

Eh, really? If I were to make two guides I wouldn't make one from dretch, it being just a feeder and cannon fodder right now no matter how experienced you are, an alien you want to ditch as soon as possible because it isn't of use.

I slightly disagree with you there. Though not common, the dretch is very powerful during s1. Of course, once the helms are passed around, one should evolve, but I often let my evos spill over 9 during s1, just so I can make easy kills and not give away so much money when I die. On the pubs naturally, scrims R different.

Mmh, unless the humans you're fighting are terrible or your dretch team happens to attack three versus one I don't possibly find any real use. You'll get one human kill after dying three times. But maybe I'll leave arguing that to a different thread.

[UniqPhoeniX]

I HIGHLY disagree with the 'evolve ASAP' idea. Dretch is an excellent and very useful class even at s3, at least for me. Ofc it's not as good at killing as mara/goon/rant, but it has its roles (scouting, it doesn't draw nearly as much attention, and is very low risk; weakening/poisoning attackers, even killing in some cases; suicide rushing campers), and it is free. I can often kill armored humans with ease, sometimes even a small group. It is probably the 2nd fastest class in tremulous, right after mara (goon is faster in large/straight areas ofc).

[jez]

I agree that dretches are my favorites for racking up kills against helmetless humans at s1, but they really aren't that useless after that either. I've been doing some experimenting with dretching post s1, mainly focusing on using poison.

Sure you don't get many kills this way, but a smart dretch with poison can basically stop a small group of unwary helmeted humans in its tracks by poisoning them, retreating, and ideally repeating once you hear the medkit sounds. Your small size and speed works in your favour, they are unlikely to prioritise you as your team mates look a lot more threatening, and lucis/pulse rifles/chainguns are really not best suited to taking down fast moving dretches. Getting one bite in and getting out of there really isn't too hard.

Yes, you tend to die a fair bit and this looks awful on tremstats (Just checked the top feeders for us1, how embarrasing xD), but I really do think this helps the team a good bit, cutting off human attacks before they have a chance to happen. Also, when you die, this gives the opponents 180cr. Loosing 3 dretches only hurts your team as loosing 1 adv mara, and you need to suicide 6 of them before you've given away more credits than one noob tyrant.

[Conzul]

Dude my mara dies so much faster than my dretch it's miserable. I even make more kills with dretch than in a mara life. I have no idea how I'm gonna do a mara guide with my (lack of) skills. I'm gonna havta get someone to send me footage of their mara, or spec someone. The problem is that spec'd footage isn't photogenic for my guides.

Dretching can become like a trance for me, sometimes. You have to know so many things at once. You have to BE the human, so you can know their next movements. You have to time the total amount of shots they've fired, even if they are burst firing, so you can guess when they will reload. You have to know how your camera will mess with you when you wallwalk just so.

 The rifle is the BEST weapon to take you out, barring MD possibly. This means that if they "upgrade", their ass is yours. I find that shotgun, Lasgun, psaw, chaingun(not used much anymore), and the prifle are easier to take out than the rifle, even helmeted.
   Even flamers and lucis are simple to heavily damage or kill with a poison dretch. You gotta hold wallwalk and get behind em, hit their head, and run away.

Like I said, you can get into a sort of weird rhythm with dretch. Once, I killed 10 hummies in a row, US1 niveus. It was like a religious experience. Then the "HAX!" "FAG", "whore!" insults were just over-the-top euphoria 4 meh.

[Saliva]

I suppose if you are good enough even the dretch can work well against bad players. However the players you want to reach with this guide are all bad players and they won't be good enough in killing humans with the dretch for them to be worth it to stay as one despite watching the guide. It's very important for them to evolve to something that doesn't feed as easily. I recommend adding that to the guide.

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[superspirality]

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[Meisseli]

Dretch is useful for scouting the enemy base, sure, and suiciding so the opposite team can't advance - but that requires a team of dretches to be useful. S3 it's nice since you can't feed anymore since almost every human has 2000cr and the max stage.

But still I feel like you're exaggerating the use of a dretch. Only against some bad human players - or if there's only a couple of humans actually attacking (but that doesn't make the dretch good but the human team a failure, rather) can you do that much damage. Rifle/MD/chaingun/lasgun are all weapons that kill you before you can get one bite in. I would still evolve any time if I had >1 evos, even in S3.

[Conzul]

I suppose if you are good enough even the dretch can work well against bad players. However the players you want to reach with this guide are all bad players and they won't be good enough in killing humans with the dretch for them to be worth it to stay as one despite watching the guide. It's very important for them to evolve to something that doesn't feed as easily. I recommend adding that to the guide.

Yay for hindsight >.>

But still I feel like you're exaggerating the use of a dretch. Only against some bad human players - or if there's only a couple of humans actually attacking (but that doesn't make the dretch good but the human team a failure, rather) can you do that much damage. Rifle/MD/chaingun/lasgun are all weapons that kill you before you can get one bite in. I would still evolve any time if I had >1 evos, even in S3.

Spec me sometime. Sounds real uppidy, but really. It's still proper, as you say, to evolve to a better class, both if you're new and if it's hs2 or hs3.

[Saliva]

Yay for hindsight >.>

Could you explain what you mean with that?

[CorSair]

Excellent guide for new players, indeed. I really liked it. And this is something what is needed long time.
Still getting my ass kicked however.

Some pro's should demonstrate REAL dretch handling, even against bsuit flamers/lucis, maybe that helps?

[Conzul]

Yay for hindsight >.>

Could you explain what you mean with that?

I'm lazy. Guide was a "fire-and-forget" thing. I should have thought to put that in. That's what I mean.

[Saliva]

I'm lazy. Guide was a "fire-and-forget" thing. I should have thought to put that in. That's what I mean.

You shouldn't forget about this now when you haven't even achieved your goal imo. The players who you wanted to watch your guide still haven't watched it. The next step is getting them to watch the guide.

[Conzul]

I'm lazy. Guide was a "fire-and-forget" thing. I should have thought to put that in. That's what I mean.

You shouldn't forget about this now when you haven't even achieved your goal imo. The players who you wanted to watch your guide still haven't watched it. The next step is getting them to watch the guide.

Most people turn to youtube for video tips. This is the first place they go when they want help. That's where my guide is. I'm not too worried about it. Prior there was only a single dretch "tutorial", which is no where as detailed as this. My goal is at least semi-achieved.

Hey, at least they know not to move in a straight line now, right?