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Dracone
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Re: Mara Guide
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Reply #60 on:
November 19, 2010, 02:01:23 AM »
Quote from: SirDude
what the user is wear also plays a a key roll.
a chain suit may be able to take more damage and and dish more out a close range, but he is prone to be ambushed and is easier to run away from and range is a bad problem for it, while someone with a lassgun bpack and helm, can't be ambush effectively and has a godlike range and he can crouch, and i find that to be very useful in general and at not getting bit in the head from maras.
You give these points as though using anything but a battlesuit with chaingun is stupid, when chaingun is great with helmet and light armor. But I'll go away from that and remind you of how you only have to make one successful dodge while aiming at a goon that's pouncing you in order to kill it, unless it runs away. Also, I don't find it any harder to chase an alien with battlesuit than anything else. I'd say dodge's use in chasing aliens is almost as important as its use in not getting hit.
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so i cant cant be good at dodging and like the lassgun? its not like is a tisor that choice.
Not what I was saying. My point was that for anyone who loves to dodge, like you, would realize that chaingun is the best weapon in the game for which dodging works with, save for luci. So either you don't know how to dodge, which would support the lack of knowledge of chaingun's potential, or you know how to dodge but don't use chaingun. Both void your credibility in this.
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for the chain accuracy deal i see your point but your giving the aliens a major advantage, if you mess up or he corners you with pounce or trample, your going to die
"If you mess up or get cornered you're going to die." That's just stupid.
Quote from: SirDude
i bet when/if you used your medon top of that he has a better chance to runaway then you.
"Better chance to run away than you." I don't recall a time when me and an enemy simultaneously decided we were done fighting and ran. And the thing about the medkit; I just haven't the literacy to understand what the fuck you're saying I guess.
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SirDude
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Re: Mara Guide
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Reply #61 on:
November 19, 2010, 05:32:04 AM »
Quote from: Dracone on November 19, 2010, 02:01:23 AM
You give these points as though using anything but a battlesuit with chaingun is stupid, when chaingun is great with helmet and light armor. But I'll go away from that and remind you of how you only have to make one successful dodge while aiming at a goon that's pouncing you in order to kill it, unless it runs away. Also, I don't find it any harder to chase an alien with battlesuit than anything else. I'd say dodge's use in chasing aliens is almost as important as its use in not getting hit.
its kinda disorientating when you uses the chaingun without a battle suit and it can make you not use it to its full potential, and with the goon that depends on many things like goons skill, and it is easier to run away from a battlesuit as he does not have radar. why would you uses dodge to chase a alien, you might need it and i believe that sprinting is faster too.
Not what I was saying. My point was that for anyone who loves to dodge, like you, would realize that chaingun is the best weapon in the game for which dodging works with, save for luci. So either you don't know how to dodge, which would support the lack of knowledge of chaingun's potential, or you know how to dodge but don't use chaingun. Both void your credibility in this.
so if i don't know how to dodge i don't know how to use the chaingun and visa versa?no it does not, it might just mean the chain gun does not fit ply play style(not that it doesn't)or for other reasons. but how is that ruin my credibility? the chaingun is not THE dodging weapon, its the painsaw, you just can't bet it at close range.
"If you mess up or get cornered you're going to die." That's just stupid.
i ended cutting things out after here, after advantage i meant to say "your giving him close range, that's what alien specialize on so" but how is that stupid?
"Better chance to run away than you." I don't recall a time when me and an enemy simultaneously decided we were done fighting and ran. And the thing about the medkit; I just haven't the literacy to understand what the fuck you're saying I guess.
again i was cutting things out here, and that was stuff i forgot to delete.
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Tremulant
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Re: Mara Guide
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Reply #62 on:
November 19, 2010, 07:39:40 PM »
I dodge around corners in pursuit of aliens all the time, chaingun with helmet does the trick very nicely for tearing huge chunks of health off whatever you're chasing, especially if you're not alone. I would quote and respond to points but i can't be bothered to reformat your mess
*hint*close quote tag, insert comment, open quote tag, etc*hint*.
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Re: Mara Guide
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Reply #63 on:
November 19, 2010, 08:25:56 PM »
On Bsuit vs Helm+Larmour:
I pretty much never bsuit, I much prefer the stealth and radar of the latter config.
If the (mild)shaking of a chaingun messes up your aim that bad, then yes you do suck.
Also, lol @ arguing with Cone over tactics and proper weapon usage.
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SirDude
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Re: Mara Guide
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Reply #64 on:
November 20, 2010, 12:16:19 AM »
it is meant to screw up your aim, its
disorientating
making things can get confusing and tricky, and if it does not effect you then they need to up that recoil...
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jm82792
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Re: Mara Guide
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Reply #65 on:
November 20, 2010, 04:12:36 AM »
I enjoy running around with a helmet + light armor + chain + nade
The chain works very well with marauders as long as you dance and don't let them bonce on your head..
I found crouching is a bad idea unless your far away or have cover.
The chains shaking isn't a problem in my opinion.
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Venkman
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Re: Mara Guide
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Reply #66 on:
November 20, 2010, 05:19:29 AM »
My internet was down for a few days and I'm still working the rust off of the two month break I recently had to take from Trem, but I swear I'm going to start a real 1.2 guide soon. My plan now is to do it as a separate guide, while simply cutting and pasting the essential points (the "Basics" section, etc.)
Quote from: jez on February 01, 1974, 08:12:29 PM
So basically, as lasgun seems to be more widely used than the chaingun, its all the more interesting that you're experiencing more chaingun deaths.
I think it has to do mainly with the amount of time that I've spent playing as Mara since the last update. Because even though the Lasgun is the more user-friendly weapon and thus easier (for noobs/moderates) to kill aliens with, the chain gun is better designed to kill Marauders, specifically. Combine this with the proactive-dodge techniques mentioned here...
Quote from: Dracone on November 19, 2010, 02:01:23 AM
My point was that for anyone who loves to dodge, like you, would realize that chaingun is the best weapon in the game for which dodging works with, save for luci. So either you don't know how to dodge, which would support the lack of knowledge of chaingun's potential, or you know how to dodge but don't use chaingun. Both void your credibility in this.
and here...
Quote from: Tremulant on November 19, 2010, 07:39:40 PM
I dodge around corners in pursuit of aliens all the time, chaingun with helmet does the trick very nicely for tearing huge chunks of health off whatever you're chasing, especially if you're not alone...
...and you've got yourself a merciless Mara death-machine that will remind you, over and over, what it sounds like when Maras cry.
I've experienced this tactic a number of times, thanks to "Drac-owned" personally, and I can assure you it's enough to make any Marauder grateful the next time he sees a lasgun.
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SirDude
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Re: Mara Guide
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Reply #67 on:
November 20, 2010, 05:39:13 AM »
Quote from: jm82792 on November 20, 2010, 04:12:36 AM
I enjoy running around with a helmet + light armor + chain + nade
The chain works very well with marauders as long as you dance and don't let them bonce on your head..
I found crouching is a bad idea unless your far away or have cover.
The chains shaking isn't a problem in my opinion.
if a mara jumps for the head in any way, a crouch can give your head just enough space to not get bit in the head, it works a good chunk of the time.
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Tremulant
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Re: Mara Guide
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Reply #68 on:
November 20, 2010, 12:44:41 PM »
Quote from: SirDude on November 20, 2010, 05:39:13 AM
Quote from: jm82792 on November 20, 2010, 04:12:36 AM
I enjoy running around with a helmet + light armor + chain + nade
The chain works very well with marauders as long as you dance and don't let them bonce on your head..
I found crouching is a bad idea unless your far away or have cover.
The chains shaking isn't a problem in my opinion.
if a mara jumps for the head in any way, a crouch can give your head just enough space to not get bit in the head, it works a good chunk of the time.
I think he meant crouching for long periods of time to steady your fire.
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Quote from: Firstinaction on April 07, 2011, 02:36:46 AM
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Meisseli
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Re: Mara Guide
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Reply #69 on:
November 20, 2010, 06:20:21 PM »
Quote from: Venkman on November 20, 2010, 05:19:29 AM
Quote from: Dracone on November 19, 2010, 02:01:23 AM
a chain suit may be able to take more damage and and dish more out a close range, but he is prone to be ambushed and is easier to run away from and range is a bad problem for it, while someone with a lassgun bpack and helm, can't be ambush effectively and has a godlike range and he can crouch, and i find that to be very useful in general and at not getting bit in the head from maras.
Oh dear, bad quoting
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Venkman
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Re: Mara Guide
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Reply #70 on:
November 21, 2010, 12:37:26 AM »
Quote from: Meisseli on November 20, 2010, 06:20:21 PM
Quote from: Venkman on November 20, 2010, 05:19:29 AM
Quote from: Dracone on November 19, 2010, 02:01:23 AM
a chain suit may be able to take more damage and and dish more out a close range, but he is prone to be ambushed and is easier to run away from and range is a bad problem for it, while someone with a lassgun bpack and helm, can't be ambush effectively and has a godlike range and he can crouch, and i find that to be very useful in general and at not getting bit in the head from maras.
Oh dear, bad quoting
Quote from: Venkman on November 20, 2010, 05:19:29 AM
Quote from: Dracone on November 19, 2010, 02:01:23 AM
My point was that for anyone who loves to dodge, like you, would realize that chaingun is the best weapon in the game for which dodging works with, save for luci. So either you don't know how to dodge, which would support the lack of knowledge of chaingun's potential, or you know how to dodge but don't use chaingun. Both void your credibility in this.
Un-F*cked
Hopefully, I did a better job this time and will be sure to double-check my cut-and-pastes better next time. My apologize to Dracone for accidentally putting such retarded words in his mouth. I should probably just stop posting my responses at 5:00 a.m.
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jm82792
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Re: Mara Guide
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Reply #71 on:
November 21, 2010, 05:47:00 AM »
That happens to me so much.
I'm ready to fall asleep and I'm posting.
Anyways steadying your fire with the chain is a bad idea unless you know you won't get nailed.
Even a good dretch can kill you if your crouching, without crouching you can bonce around quicker and avoid threats.
I never knew crouching could save your backside so well(I knew but it was a pain to use).
I didn't bother using dodge until I bound it to the unused side button of my mouse, and now I use it all the time.
Now if I had a third button(the other one is for medi) I'd try crouching if it save myself half the time.
I'm happy though, dodge has made me good enough to occasionally rule the top of the list for half,
sometimes even the whole game.
Unfortunately the last thing I need to do is play more trem
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