What clan logo is this (><)

[Leon_]

I ask cause I'd like to join

[KillerWhale]

That would be the ><enocide clan.

Although, I will warn you; it's highly unlikely you will get in if you can't even find their site.
They are some of the best players that have ever played Trem, and the application acceptance rates are incredibly low.

[Leon_]

If I didn't know the name how  would find their site lol

[Silver]

Leon_
Today at 07:27:55 PM
I've registered so does mean I'm in the clan?

Lol.

[Kiwi]

Whale is right, there the best of the best.
When did they redo their webpage?

[Luigi1]

wut! {&} is da best of da best..

[Kiwi]

There good too
& and >< should scrim again..

[AppleJuice]

We're fine with scrimming again (in fact, we scrim whenever convenient, afaik), but we have nothing to prove anymore (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=11664.0 + other scrims). We're the best clan, period. There's no need for debate.

[Ryanw4390]

Apple if you are referring to the Xenocide clan I would agree we are the best clan and have nothing to prove:

http://interpsy.com/x/index.php?topic=548.0

[KillerWhale]

I fully agree with both of you guys that [EXT] is the best clan.

[Ryanw4390]

Speaking of EBSF, its fascinating to see how they have become the most dominant force within the Tremulous Community.

[your face]

AppleJuice: take your drama elsewhere.

[Vodka]

 

[Silver]

Whale is right, there the best of the best.
When did they redo their webpage?

their they're there, you're doinitrong

[AppleJuice]

AppleJuice: take your drama elsewhere.

take your spam elsewhere

I'm posting for reasons of record

[Dracone]

If I remember correctly, > is undefeated!

Better watch out OHHHHHHHHHHHHH SHIT THEY BOILIN HOT AND GONNA KIK THIS CLAN SCENE RIGHT IN THE DICK

[Kaine]

AppleJuice: take your drama elsewhere.

To be fair, >< was elitist first (in this thread).

Also, since we're all comparing cocks:

[Kiwi]

Sorry, didn't mean to start all this

Lock Please Devs, his question is answered.

[Maximus]

We're fine with scrimming again (in fact, we scrim whenever convenient, afaik), but we have nothing to prove anymore (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=11664.0 + other scrims). We're the best clan, period. There's no need for debate.

even though Pk just beat you 

http://www.clanpk.org/forum/index.php?topic=1122.0

[AppleJuice]

We're fine with scrimming again (in fact, we scrim whenever convenient, afaik), but we have nothing to prove anymore (http://tremulous.net/forum/index.php?topic=11664.0 + other scrims). We're the best clan, period. There's no need for debate.

even though Pk just beat you  

http://www.clanpk.org/forum/index.php?topic=1122.0

Pk didn't really "beat" us. You do realize that Cerebral Assassin is not in {&}, right? And that we were using 2 subs? Since when is 2 {&} and 2 subs a real scrim?

How many times do I have to prove myself to this community? It's really getting old. I also wasn't even in that scrim, so that's very far from actually beating me. Nice try.


If anyone wants to try to beat Me, Dracone, Yarou, and (St. Anger/Kriegsgott/Iabz/StevenM/Cipher/anyone else who was with us during July/August 2009, though Dragula stopped playing) in a 4v4 when we're active, feel free to try. You'll lose, just like everyone else has. Scrimming a team composed of substitutes when barely any of our core members play is just what I expected from this clan community, though.

Honestly, I'd stop repeating this if you guys would stop being so blind.

[Dracone]

I could throw in all the excuses I have on this, about why I raged like I haven't in over a year, but I will leave it be for when we have a legit scrim next time. Excuses are best left given to those who would request them and would understand them.

I would also say sorry to Pk for what I said while raging if they actually put two and two together and realized that people say shit when they're a bit pissed, because I do see on their forums that Euzzsia told them how I was talking shit. But no, Pk did not. I also see that on their forums they claim it ended with me, Punjabi, and Cerebral Assassin raging. I did, but the other two did not, nor did they say anything negative, iirc, directly towards Pk. CA was actually making a decent attempt at points to keep me cooled down, and Punjabi wasn't raging whatsoever in any way. But they get jumped on anyhow.

Don't get ahead of yourselves.

[Soldier.]

"Niiiiice!  So you beat 'em in a serious scrim, too?  Props!  I wish I coulda seen this.  Y'know, MooseSack was lurking their mumble during the Highrise rounds, and they were PISSED OFF.  Sayin' we suck and whatnot.  We don't suck, PK RULES! XD"
- Vortexx

I lol'd

[Silver]

I will give & that they had 2 subs, but it's not like they had bad subs.

[Dracone]

I don't know what you consider ragequitting, but you're definitely wrong. Last night's scrim was the only time I've legitimately ragequit in the past year or so. I don't think I have to say bye to certify each exit as not being a ragequit.

[Ryanw4390]

Pk is the most underrated clan of all time. At one point or another they have beaten every clan they faced.

[NotYarou]

>< is the most overrated clan of all time. At one point or another they have lost to every clan they faced.

+1

[outlaw]

Wish I still had those demos of punjabi triggerbotting.  :/

u edited ur post so i edited mine.

[FreaK]

Everyone has their own opinion so there is no point in arguing about this, its just stupid. Mods should just lock this thread before it turns into a flame war.

[Ryanw4390]

>< is the most overrated clan of all time. At one point or another they have lost to every clan they faced.

+1

Hey let me be the first to agree with you on that.

[Silver]

I don't know what you consider ragequitting, but you're definitely wrong. Last night's scrim was the only time I've legitimately ragequit in the past year or so. I don't think I have to say bye to certify each exit as not being a ragequit.

I had screenshots to verify otherwise but my HD completely died unfortunately.

Anyway, I specifically remember two separate times on AA.

First one you quit right after saying "Fuck s3" right after I ate your base with a rant.

Second one you quit literally one second after saying "This mouse is bullshit."

[your face]

lol @ thread

[Dracone]

I don't remember you eating the base with rant, I might have left right before that happened, but I do remember saying "fuck s3." I wouldn't call that rage quitting though, I just sometimes find fighting S3 aliens boring, a little too drawn out.

As for my mouse, you're right, I got a little pissed because for the first time ever, and still the only time, my mouse was being really weird and slow, but I think that was actually lag, not my mouse.

In any case, I don't legitimately get mad at this game in public games, maybe a bit frustrated for moments. I quit when I'm bored or have to go.

[AppleJuice]

Punjabi/Outlaw has been improving steadily ever since last summer, and he's great in 1.2 as well (afaik it doesn't work in 1.2; correct me if I'm wrong), so I really doubt he triggerbots. I don't think it's wise to throw around accusations like that without proof. Then again, most of the good players have been accused of cheating, so Punjabi, you should be flattered.

[tskuzzy]

So back on topic.
What clan logo is this (><)? Wasn't this guy named "halo 3" in it?

[Frick123]

Punjabi/Outlaw has been improving steadily ever since last summer, and he's great in 1.2 as well (afaik it doesn't work in 1.2; correct me if I'm wrong), so I really doubt he triggerbots. I don't think it's wise to throw around accusations like that without proof. Then again, most of the good players have been accused of cheating, so Punjabi, you should be flattered.

mmmmmm apple juiceeeeeeee >.>

[CreatureofHell]

lol @ thread

[Silver]

.

[outlaw]

As I said to you in PM's apple.  The demos are very old and my old HD crashed.  So unfortunately I don't have them.  They're from before you joined Q punjabi(even though you were only in a short time.)  Secunder(I think) sent them to me after getting mad at me for letting you in Q.  I don't have any reason to believe you triggerbot now, but I do feel pretty positive that at one point in time you did.

I never used any kind of hack in tremulous. Powa asked me to join Q clan, and i said i might join. i wanted to join active clan that scrims. Luigi told me that its not that active. i said to luigi that tell powa i'm not joining this clan. i dont think i ever joined that clan. if u ever find or get those demo's i would like to see them.

[Euzzsia]

DUDE, AWESOME! some one spelled my name right! WOO HO! Lol, and I didnt lurk in {&} mumble, I asked magmum, and he said sure. I just told arch or vort(I forget) that yall were raging over it. It was funny to me, hearing yall scrimming. and how yall said Pk is nothing but 12 year olds. and yall kicked me from mumble for no reason at all. And I wasnt echoing. And I wouldnt tell that to a clan that you just lose to. And for pk, it was a bad map, with some advantage tword pk, it was suppose to be held at {&}, but I think it wasnt because of lag.But I really dont take that as a scrim with hiding spots any1 can win.

[Dracone]

1. You were echoing, use push to talk, it's pretty much a general rule of comms in gaming and you have Down syndrome if that's too hard. I let you on our Mumble because, to that point, you seemed like a decent kid, but you're supposed to stay silent if you're going to sit in the channel of a clan in a scrim, and not knowing how to use Mumble is a shitty reason for not doing that.
2. I am Magnum.

You're not even reading anything, and apparently have just about no recollection of anything that happened because the change in server had nothing to do with lag. Wouldn't tell WHAT to Pk? I already explained why I said what I did about Pk on Mumble.

Why did you even start posting here? You PM'd me, "I like you better than Shade, he's not very nice!" or something along those lines before, and now you flip out with a partially incoherent fragment post on what DIDN'T happen. Go play Club Penguin or something.

[Kiwi]

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[Kiwi]

lol @ thread

+1

Edit: errm sorry, I can't believe I just double posted like that 

[Euzzsia]

I wasnt using a mic btw..... and I didnt touch nothing, just specing and listening to the rage. And about the shade thing, I guess you cant take in sarcasim to well..Also, I know you posted it here. I was just explaining my part. When you do that, you tend tend to use stuff in the past as an exapmle. And.... Club Penguin is awesome! lol

[Dracone]

You're not reading anything. Why are you saying "them?" My name was right there on Mumble. And you had something going on because there was obvious echoing. Your icon was lighting up, and the others told me to kick you after you'd been echoing our talk for awhile. In any case, there was no "them" raging, only me.

I'm all set with you anyhow. For future reference, lay off the sugar and retardation, both are pretty bad for you in high doses.

[Euzzsia]

When I say them. It wasnt just you raging. All you keep saying "OMFG, this jettards, this picks this gay fucking map. Like I said, 12 year olds." and the other were agreeing with you. and you call pk 12, why are you screaming over a game where you bang in your kepboard? I mean for real, Im not the one to argue. So lets just drop this broski,

I'm all set with you anyhow. For future reference, lay off the sugar and retardation, both are pretty bad for you in high doses.

NO WAI!

[AppleJuice]

this picks this gay fucking map

where you bang in your kepboard? lets just drop this broski,

bro yo bro you got the 40s? u an 2dope be duckin me 4 da las time bro i be expecin u

[Silver]

Since I don't have the demos, I went ahead and edited the posts.

[Hooduphoodlum]

What clan logo is this (><)

[Kiwi]

That would be the ><enocide clan.

Although, I will warn you; it's highly unlikely you will get in if you can't even find their site.
They are some of the best players that have ever played Trem, and the application acceptance rates are incredibly low.

[KillerWhale]

NA Members:

Hooduphoodlum

[Hooduphoodlum]

o cool

[Dracone]

This "problem" has already been cleared up anyhow. Not to mention that whoever this OP is got his answer. Lock.

[Lo0uberwaufter]

*switch to alter ego*

hey look, perfect practice for my debate test tommorrow
im sure this is all resolved already and nobody gives a fuck but owel


No offense at all is directed towards any of Clan PK's individual members.  I still <3 all of the ones I <3'd before this (you know who you are ).  I'm just trying to do it justice the way I see it.

Euzzsia:

First of all, let me tell you what the heart of the issue is, at least for me.  I'll get to the mumble thing later.  Now I know it maybe wasn't you specifically, but when someone in PK posts a thread on PK's forum essentially entitled WE BEAT (INSERT CLAN HERE), it's going to piss (INSERT CLAN HERE) off.  Basically what you're doing when you post something like this is presenting a one-sided image of a scrim.  You're giving the other clan no opportunity to defend themselves or explain the situation or circumstances of the match.  People just go on your forums and see "WE BEAT (INSERT CLAN HERE)" as well as the screenie, which, other than highlighting all of the rantwhoring kills in the s3 stage of the game, tells nothing of real value about the game.  This gives those who read the thread on your forums a potentially false idea of what may or may not have happened.  They read all of the comments in the thread from your fellow clanmates saying how badly behaved the other team was, or how well one of your clanmates performed, or how proud everyone in the clan is of the win, and they simply take it for granted that these posts are actually accurate representations of what happened in the scrim.  The opposing clan (who more than likely doesn't know about your clan's victory post for a while), can do nothing to defend themselves against your accusations and proclamations of success.  This type of thing can unfairly add to your clan's image and unfairly detract from the other clan's.  Opposing clans, especially particularly strong/well-known ones, are generally not going to be very appreciative of this rather cowardly and falsifying tactic. 
{&}, being one of these, is no exception.  Some of the members in {&} have played this game since its creation and have proven themselves time and again the best of the best, both skillwise and beyond.  As far as I could tell, PK scrimmed ONE of these members (what would be considered a "core member"), one BRAND NEW LESS THAN A WEEK OLD member, and two RANDOM (but not necessarily unskilled) SUBS who were not associated with the clan in any way and had never engaged in any teamwork with them before, with or without mumble/teamspeak.  I'll give it to you that Soldier (Mo'Steel) was in the process of applying to {&} and has recently been accepted.  Were I to be in PK, I certainly wouldn't accept this as a satisfactory victory over {&} and I think you're/they're grasping at strings by doing so.

Mumble thingy

Now, I have no idea what happened in this scrim or on the & mumble as I was not there, but I will tell you what I do know.

I know that Dracone, despite allegedly being a girl and certainly being a large fuckdoofus, is in fact one hell of a great guy.

He's very into what he enjoys doing, and he deserves to be respected for his contributions and dedication to the game, not to mention his skill level.

You should realize that you don't get to where he is proficiency-wise without being a little intense sometimes.

You should take into account that if PK was in fact jettarding in a scrim (which is what it sounds like he was mad at but I wouldn't know because I wasn't there), he has every right to be aggravated.  Are you telling me Jettards aren't annoying as fuck?  Not to say that they're against the rules in any way, but if you go around jettarding in public games you're pretty much asking for a kick, or at least to be shot out of the sky by your teammates.  Again, I wouldn't know the exact situation as I wasn't there.  Perhaps jettarding was to PK's tactical advantage at some point and for some reason.

Also, Why are you asking to be on &'s mumble during a scrim if you're just going to report what they say (in what they assume to be privacy) back to the opposing clan?  In addition to this obvious mistake as well as the fact that you blamed ALL of &'s players for flaming rather than the only one who actually did, if you're annoying the fuck out of them by unknowingly or otherwise spamming their eardrums with feedback on their own mumble which they allowed you to join, I'd say they have every right to ban you.


---------------------------------------------------

Euzzsia, I've had problems with you from day one, when I saw how you'd gotten rejected from (><) and then gone and applied to {NoS} and in the application said how you were in >< for a little while but quit because it sucked.  You're entitled to your opinion, but nobody likes a lying bitch.


WOW DRACONE WAY TO RUIN IT I WORKED SO HARD ON ITwhats op original pollack
edit: o i c its original poster

man its like i said dracone knows more internet acronyms than...whatever it was i said

[Dracone]

Hood has basically explained the basis on which "excuses" would have been valid, in a sense. His post has a lot of value really, even if the issue was resolved between & and Pk. It did, in the end, come down to Euzzsia.

While I'm not so dedicated to the game itself, I do make sure to hold up to what I'm expected of by the people who have the right to ask things of me. AppleJuice is the leader of &, and I am not, even if I am the one leading us in most of our competitive events. In almost any regular case, I would not mind fucking up a bit in these scrims. But AppleJuice, unlike people like Euzzsia, is not someone who is fun to piss off or "let down". He has never done anything to warrant any kind of "let's fuck with this guy" kind of behavior from me.

I think the best way to put it is that I feel "responsibilities" to the clan, almost naturally. That doesn't mean anything really, it's just a game, and its essentially worthless from a realistic perspective, but at the same time, it helps a bit to make the game more fun during clan vs. clan shit.

Also, haha Hood. Hope it took you 5 hours.

[Euzzsia]

You love me huh? Lol,

dude, drac, can we just sqaush it and be cool?

[your face]

This "problem" has already been cleared up anyhow. Not to mention that whoever this OP is got his answer. Lock.

You're only one and a half pages late.  SRY CANT HELP IT

[Dracone]

You love me huh? Lol,

dude, drac, can we just sqaush it and be cool?

No. You're retarded. Still, what, do you think I'm going to come after you and try to piss you off? I said I'm done, and you're getting nowhere. Fucking around with you would be like playing with the container the Play-doh came in.

[Silver]

You love me huh? Lol,

dude, drac, can we just sqaush it and be cool?

No. You're retarded. Still, what, do you think I'm going to come after you and try to piss you off? I said I'm done, and you're getting nowhere. Fucking around with you would be like playing with the container the Play-doh came in.

Yeah, the Play-doh is way cooler.

[Euzzsia]

Ok w/e. All I did was listen to mumble, spec, and told arch that you called them 12 year olds.

[StevenM]

outlaw doesnt triggerbot, i gave the guy my config, told him to buy a g5 and trained with him. he didnt even know how to use my config, i highly doubt he would even know how to set a triggerbot up lol, no offence outlaw .

[Kiwi]

Can we lock this?  Very off topic?

[Lo0uberwaufter]

man the guy who started this topic sure didn't know what he was getting into man

[tskuzzy]

I think this thread is highly representative of Trem.net forum as a whole. I give this thread a gold star.

[Flux]

im gonna jump in and give u all gold stars for being very entertaining

[A Spork]

[insert lots of text here]

2 points:
1) Euzzia isn't in pk. That means what he does is not our problem

2) if you would read the freaking thread title on the pk forums you would notice something: it's says "FUN SCRIM".
you know what that means? It wasn't serious. We know that.
All it was a frakking scrim report, not a "nah nah nahnah naaaaaah we beat you & sux lol" thread.
Seriously.

Kthxbai.

P.S. Cone, please stop raging at us, k?

[AppleJuice]

[insert lots of text here]

2 points:
1) Euzzia isn't in pk. That means what he does is not our problem

2) if you would read the freaking thread title on the pk forums you would notice something: it's says "FUN SCRIM".
you know what that means? It wasn't serious. We know that.
All it was a frakking scrim report, not a "nah nah nahnah naaaaaah we beat you & sux lol" thread.
Seriously.

Kthxbai.

P.S. Cone, please stop raging at us, k?

Originally, the post said "See Evo! I beat &!" and I don't remember seeing the words "fun scrim" in the title before (it says Last Edit: January 20, 2010, 08:37:31 PM by ArchPyro).

However, thanks for editing it. I don't really have anything against Pk, and I've liked most of the members for a while (which is why this was kind of surprising)

let dis topic rite here die ok
euzzsia where my 40s at tuff gui

[your face]

let dis topic rite here die ok
euzzsia where my 40s at tuff gui

gota always have the last word rite

[AppleJuice]

let dis topic rite here die ok
euzzsia where my 40s at tuff gui

gota always have the last word rite

says the guy with -363 karma

[your face]

hey that's -360 to you if you include the other 3.

[mooseberry]

SEE without this new karma system these misunderstandings would never take place!

[outlaw]

outlaw doesnt triggerbot, i gave the guy my config, told him to buy a g5 and trained with him. he didnt even know how to use my config, i highly doubt he would even know how to set a triggerbot up lol, no offence outlaw .

Dude ur the only guy i respect most in trem <3 and ur training made my aim look like a triggerbot. i dont care wut drama whore's say, i know that i dont triggerbot and u know i dont triggerbot thats enough for me
 

[Luigi1]

outlaw doesnt triggerbot, i gave the guy my config, told him to buy a g5 and trained with him. he didnt even know how to use my config, i highly doubt he would even know how to set a triggerbot up lol, no offence outlaw .

Dude ur the only guy i respect most in trem <3 and ur training made my aim look like a triggerbot. i dont care wut drama whore's say, i know that i dont triggerbot and u know i dont triggerbot thats enough for me
 

aww how cute

[Ryanw4390]

outlaw doesnt triggerbot, i gave the guy my config, told him to buy a g5 and trained with him. he didnt even know how to use my config, i highly doubt he would even know how to set a triggerbot up lol, no offence outlaw .

Dude ur the only guy i respect most in trem <3 and ur training made my aim look like a triggerbot. i dont care wut drama whore's say, i know that i dont triggerbot and u know i dont triggerbot thats enough for me
 

Outlaw and Steven don't deserve half the shit they get. Steven led and saved vR for six months and kept us alive and competitive and Outlaw came in and was one of the most loyal and active members.

[wannabe]

what the fuck is that fucking serious internet drama? it does not do anything to real life, lock it lmfao

[MitSugna]

says a wannabe ...

[Hooduphoodlum]

What clan logo is this (><)

thats all i want 2no guys  i mean   comon

[Silver]

What clan logo is this (><)

thats all i want 2no guys  i mean   comon

It's the clan tag for people who regular the X Servers.

[StevenM]

Outlaw and Steven don't deserve half the shit they get. Steven led and saved vR for six months and kept us alive and competitive and Outlaw came in and was one of the most loyal and active members.

i love you ryan!

[Ryanw4390]

Outlaw and Steven don't deserve half the shit they get. Steven led and saved vR for six months and kept us alive and competitive and Outlaw came in and was one of the most loyal and active members.

i love you ryan!

And Myth killed vR

[Myth]

AppleJuice doesn't deserve half the shit he gets. AppleJuice was one of the best, most loyal, and active members in AoD.

[bleach]

AJ was in AoD?

[~gear]

I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.

Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity.

But one hundred years later, the Negro still is not free. One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later, the Negro is still languished in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land. And so we've come here today to dramatize a shameful condition.

In a sense we've come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the "unalienable Rights" of "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note, insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds."

But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. And so, we've come to cash this check, a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice.

We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of Now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children.

It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of the Negro's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning. And those who hope that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. And there will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.

But there is something that I must say to my people, who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice: In the process of gaining our rightful place, we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again, we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.

The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the Negro community must not lead us to a distrust of all white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. And they have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom.

We cannot walk alone.

And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead.

We cannot turn back.

There are those who are asking the devotees of civil rights, "When will you be satisfied?" We can never be satisfied as long as the Negro is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality. We can never be satisfied as long as our bodies, heavy with the fatigue of travel, cannot gain lodging in the motels of the highways and the hotels of the cities. We cannot be satisfied as long as the negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their self-hood and robbed of their dignity by signs stating: "For Whites Only." We cannot be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote. No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until "justice rolls down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream."¹

I am not unmindful that some of you have come here out of great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow jail cells. And some of you have come from areas where your quest -- quest for freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of police brutality. You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive. Go back to Mississippi, go back to Alabama, go back to South Carolina, go back to Georgia, go back to Louisiana, go back to the slums and ghettos of our northern cities, knowing that somehow this situation can and will be changed.

Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.

And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of "interposition" and "nullification" -- one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; "and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together."2

This is our hope, and this is the faith that I go back to the South with.

With this faith, we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith, we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith, we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

And this will be the day -- this will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with new meaning:

My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing.

Land where my fathers died, land of the Pilgrim's pride,

From every mountainside, let freedom ring!

And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true.

And so let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire.

Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York.

Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania.

Let freedom ring from the snow-capped Rockies of Colorado.

Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California.

But not only that:

Let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia.

Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee.

Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi.

From every mountainside, let freedom ring.

And when this happens, when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:

                Free at last! Free at last!

                Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!

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[Ryanw4390]

Gear you should join this clan.

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[GLAMEOW]

words can't describe how truly sad this thread is... and as a matter of fact i'm pretty sad for posting here

 

[mooseberry]

Worldwide support for international euthanasia projects has increased 3% upon reading the above post.

[K-otic]

that is the xenocide clan logo

[CreatureofHell]

that is the xenocide clan logo

What the necro...

[Aelita]

that is the xenocide clan logo

You and 300 others like this.

[KwontumPhyzix]

man the guy who started this topic sure didn't know what he was getting into man

[Ryanw4390]

They are some of the best players that have ever played Trem, and the application acceptance rates are incredibly low.

What a difference a year makes.